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Decide my life (front tire)

May 13, 2024, 7:39 a.m.
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Tossing a hat in from the Continental Kryptotal FR 2.4 in Enduro Soft. Rolls quick, Long wearing, hooks up and grips incredibly well.   If you are eyeballing an Assguy, the Conti' equivalent, the Argotal fits the bill and comes in a 2,6 (measures at 2.56 knob to knob at 30psi)

May 13, 2024, 10:39 a.m.
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Posted by: KDix85

Tossing a hat in from the Continental Kryptotal FR 2.4 in Enduro Soft. Rolls quick, Long wearing, hooks up and grips incredibly well.   If you are eyeballing an Assguy, the Conti' equivalent, the Argotal fits the bill and comes in a 2,6 (measures at 2.56 knob to knob at 30psi)

Yeah my fave LBS is all about teh Maxxis but I see they have the Kryptotal in stock. Kind of wish they had their ultra soft compound on their enduro weight tires but maybe their soft is fine for wet pnw trail and xc use?

It’s a good looking tire too. And I can be a vain human.

May 13, 2024, 2:13 p.m.
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I use soft in the rear...  soft in the front is probably fine in the dry.

May 14, 2024, 12:03 a.m.
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Another previous 2.5 DHF Maxxgrip user who is happy as a clam on a 2.6 Butcher T9.  30mm internal rims too.

May 14, 2024, 8:21 a.m.
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Posted by: BC_Nuggets

Posted by: KDix85

Tossing a hat in from the Continental Kryptotal FR 2.4 in Enduro Soft. Rolls quick, Long wearing, hooks up and grips incredibly well.   If you are eyeballing an Assguy, the Conti' equivalent, the Argotal fits the bill and comes in a 2,6 (measures at 2.56 knob to knob at 30psi)

Yeah my fave LBS is all about teh Maxxis but I see they have the Kryptotal in stock. Kind of wish they had their ultra soft compound on their enduro weight tires but maybe their soft is fine for wet pnw trail and xc use?

It’s a good looking tire too. And I can be a vain human.

There was rumour that Continental would be bringing Supersoft Compound in the Enduro casings this season but Ive not yet seen the vaporware materialize.

I can however speak to the grip and traction provided by the Soft Compound, for a quick example, Im 6'3" 240 on an XL Tyee, Dominion A4's and 223/203 rotors to give you an idea of basic variables for my riding,  and slow crawling down the main slab line of In 'n Out Burger I was able to hold a barely moving pace and I found I could very much percieve the "cling" or tackiness the Enduro Soft Argotal I had up front had on that lovely Squamish granite. On a couple of wet rides over my Christmas leave, 0 issues with the tyres grippng or breaking traction, as long as i was doing my part, on all the wet roots and woodwork on Fromme. 

Suprisingly, the compound is decided Long wearing too, Odd for a Soft compound.  The SuperSoft is otherworldly, and neither compound, IME, gets blocky in the cold.   The current set on my Tyee has been on Since Spring '23 and is showing no signs of performance degradation, yet. (but it's May Long and Im headed for 4 days of Bromont QC lift laps soooo that may change...)

Casing wise, outside of the park and racing, their Enduro case is the money spot as far as being supportive, yet supple. 

Ive got the Krypto FR Enduro Soft 2.4/Xynotal Enduro 2.4 Soft on my trail bike, 2.6 Argotal Enduro Soft/2.4 Krypto RE(DH Soft w Tannus Fusion cause am Large Smashy Mammal) on the Endurosled and the performance is very confidence inspiring and has def helped me with really getting deep into corners, controlling my entry into wild features, off camber rooty buisness and on otherwise sketchy situations with ease.  Prior I was on DHF/Dissector and Assguy/DHRII and I didnt find I could ever push the limits as hard as I can on the Conti's, for me, with Big M's rubbers.

Only 2 Downsides I've encountered so far: Firstly, The Trail casing is too light for serious use. I did in a Trail Endurance Krypto RE 2.4 pretty hard at Kicking Horse early last season... High speed landing in a rock garden and I scored a snake bite and a bead delamination. Continental warrantied the tyre no questions asked, and I moved up to a DH casing and an insert. Good convo with their engineers during, revealed that the Trail Endurance are made in their overseas manufacturing facility and sometimes QC misses the occasional bad egg. The Enduro and DH casings are made at their facilities in German so they can safeguard their compounds from the prying industrial espionage eyes...   But this is a Clydesdale being a destroyer problem Id surmise.

The Other issue is mounting. Get 2 Cush Core Bead Droppers and a Bead Bro, Pre Warm the casings in the sun and grab the Magic rubbermaid garbage can. Say 7 Woosaas and excercise patience. When the germans say the bead is 29"... Its Exact and very tight.  Some rim bed profiles are an absolute fight. But you will receive VERY definitive auditory indication when they sit up on the bead wall.  Most tires give a little ping... these are a "Ach! I made Schiesse in mein shorts"  BANG.   But I havent burped one yet even running as low as 22F/24R... So its a feature. not a bug  

If you're Continental Curious, Id give them an honest shake down

May 14, 2024, 10:15 a.m.
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Hmm...you do have me buy-curious (paging Tobias Funke) over the conti's.  Not too jazzed on the pita install as I'm used to Maxxis (and specialized) that I could usually seat with a floor pump.  Will investimigate further and discuss with my LBS.  Cheers and thanks for your detailed analysis.  Very much appreciated.

May 14, 2024, 12:22 p.m.
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Posted by: BC_Nuggets

Hmm...you do have me buy-curious (paging Tobias Funke) over the conti's.  Not too jazzed on the pita install as I'm used to Maxxis (and specialized) that I could usually seat with a floor pump.  Will investimigate further and discuss with my LBS.  Cheers and thanks for your detailed analysis.  Very much appreciated.

Can confirm the performances of the Continental tires is excellent. I have the Xynotal 2.4 enduro soft on one bike and the grip is excellent and durability is very good too.  I have Argotal trail on my other bike and grip is less good but acceptable. They do fit tightly. I don’t use inserts because at my weight, 146 these days there is little benefit. I’ve never pinch flatted a tubeless tire in 20 years of using tubeless. Never burped or rolled a tire off a bead. I haven’t dinged or broken a rim since I went carbon despite dinging rims often enough. 

If and when Continental produce a trail casing tire with soft rubber I’ll be all over it like a fat kid on a Smartie.

May 14, 2024, 12:27 p.m.
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Welp you've got my even more curious.  Think I'll go for an Enduro casing (soft compound) Krypto front 2.4 and see how it works out for me.

Thanks.

May 16, 2024, 6:37 a.m.
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Posted by: BC_Nuggets

Welp you've got my even more curious. Think I'll go for an Enduro casing (soft compound) Krypto front 2.4 and see how it works out for me.

Thanks.

Glad to have helped!  I hope you enjoy the ride!    \m/

Posted by: andy-eunson

Posted by: BC_Nuggets

Hmm...you do have me buy-curious (paging Tobias Funke) over the conti's.  Not too jazzed on the pita install as I'm used to Maxxis (and specialized) that I could usually seat with a floor pump.  Will investimigate further and discuss with my LBS.  Cheers and thanks for your detailed analysis.  Very much appreciated.

Can confirm the performances of the Continental tires is excellent. I have the Xynotal 2.4 enduro soft on one bike and the grip is excellent and durability is very good too.  I have Argotal trail on my other bike and grip is less good but acceptable. They do fit tightly. I don’t use inserts because at my weight, 146 these days there is little benefit. I’ve never pinch flatted a tubeless tire in 20 years of using tubeless. Never burped or rolled a tire off a bead. I haven’t dinged or broken a rim since I went carbon despite dinging rims often enough. 

If and when Continental produce a trail casing tire with soft rubber I’ll be all over it like a fat kid on a Smartie.

Andy, with regards to a Trail Soft, Its one of the rumoured new Casing/Compound combos coming along side Enduro Supersoft, but I havent seen it materialize in reality as of yet.

At my height/weight/finesse of a spastic gorilla ride style...Inserts are a must hahaha

May 17, 2024, 5:59 a.m.
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I can add some experience with the new Conti tyres as well. Running Krypto R Enduro Soft on the rear and Krypto F DH Supersoft on the front. My riding profile is kind of the opposite of KDix85, being a light and relatively precise rider.

The contis are very good. Performance feels on par with Maxxis but the Contis last longer.

Running no inserts, the Enduro casing has withstood lots of alpine riding among sharp and very sharp rocks. The DH casing is definitely overkill for my riding, so i would love for them to release the Enduro in Supersoft.

Mechanical grip is excellent as long as there is no tacky mud. The soft rubber on the rear feels like its a bit more grippy than Maxxterrra. Rolls about the same as a DHR Maxxterra DD.

The Krypto F DH Supersoft is really nice too. Can't tell a difference in grip to the Assegai Maxxgrip EXO but i'm running less pressure in the Conti so its not a clean comparison. Its not fast rolling, but not quite as soul-sucking as pedaling a maxxgrip Assegai.


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May 20, 2024, 12:57 p.m.
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Schwalbe Tacky Chan Super Trail Ultra Soft or Soft. The grip on this tires is excellent but they roll fast compared to Magic Marys and Assegais. Plus quality control on new Schwalbe tires is far better than Maxxis. I’ve given up on Maxxis after a significant number of wobbly casings. You can mostly ignore the complaints about Schwalbe side knobs. I think that was from two or three versions and several years ago where side knobs used to tear off. The new versions are quite good. Casing feel and durability on the Super Trail versions of the Schwalbe tires is nicely damped. They seem more durable and robust than Maxxis Exo+, somewhere between that and a double down. Very impressed with these tires across lots of different conditions. Schwalbe tires are quite expensive locally and hard to find. If you order from the reputable German sites though they work out to being far far cheaper than Maxxis domestically. I’ll usually order a year’s worth of tires and maybe get a buddy in on the order too and after tax, duty and shipping cost works out to something like $85 or less per tire. Win win.


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May 20, 2024, 3:49 p.m.
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/\Nice, forgot about the Tacky Chan. Available in the super gooey durometer with the thinner casings too. Was gonna say if idea of "BC/XC" is super soft heavy wall 2.6's...why not just run a sticky Magic Mary...

Aug. 27, 2024, 4:49 p.m.
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I just started running a Butcher T9 Grid Trail 29 front with a Kryptotal Re Enduro Soft 27.5 rear on my Trail Bike.  Thinking this could be the sweet spot

Aug. 29, 2024, 8:56 a.m.
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I've enjoyed my Kryptotal Fr Enduro Soft compound on the front of my chromag for the last few months.  I would say it's a bit grippier than the dhf maxterra I was running before and when it does break loose or slide it's been predictable and easy to save myself.  Really bites into corners without the dhf vague-void between the center and edge knobs.

I think I'll get a dh supersoft for the fall/winter up front unless they come up with the enduro supersoft.  Possibly move the Fr Soft to the rear though it's front specific.

Nov. 11, 2024, 6:31 a.m.
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Update:

Swapped out my Butcher T9 Grid Trail for a Hillbilly T9 Grid Trail.  

Really impressed with the grip in wetter conditions.  Nice and Bitey!

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