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June 24, 2013, 7:55 a.m.
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canti lever brakes were the first brakes offered on production mountain bikes , borrowed from cyclocross bikes , then the u-brakes made a ( thankfully ) short appearance as the " next best thing " .

they died as a result of ( a ) heavier than canti , ( b ) shitty mount location , ( c ) didn't work worth shit .

fortunately , linear pull brakes showed up soon thereafter , which represented a real improvement in braking performance .

June 24, 2013, 8:17 a.m.
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I think the Shimano u brake was a response to the WTB and Suntour version of that brake. IIRC the Suntour was called the powercam. WTB was trail master or something? There was a BMX brake called a pit bull at that time too. Same as a u brake. And the same as the old Mafac centre pull that many of us had on those ubiquitous Peugeots. I recall the spin though. Mounted to the chain stays where the tubes are big and stiff so braking was better. Until the bunked up with mud. My Ritchey Enduro (where have I heard that term before?) had the chain stay mounted u brake in 1987. The plastic bolt washer even had a shark tooth to match the shark fin. 5 points and a cookie to whomever knows what I am talking about.

Campagnolo had the mono planer u brake. My friend had Brodie with those front and rear.

Debate? Bikes are made for riding not pushing.

June 24, 2013, 8:31 a.m.
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I think the Shimano u brake was a response to the WTB and Suntour version of that brake. IIRC the Suntour was called the powercam. WTB was trail master or something? There was a BMX brake called a pit bull at that time too. Same as a u brake. And the same as the old Mafac centre pull that many of us had on those ubiquitous Peugeots. I recall the spin though. Mounted to the chain stays where the tubes are big and stiff so braking was better. Until the bunked up with mud. My Ritchey Enduro (where have I heard that term before?) had the chain stay mounted u brake in 1987. The plastic bolt washer even had a shark tooth to match the shark fin. 5 points and a cookie to whomever knows what I am talking about.

Campagnolo had the mono planer u brake. My friend had Brodie with those front and rear.

I've got a Shark Fin on my Chromag for shits and giggles (and one on my '92 Rocky Mountain Vertex). It was for protecting the chainstay and for for stopping the chain getting stuck between the stay and tire (did they ever?). The Shark Tooth was for stopping chain suck. Mmmmm cookies.

treezz
wow you are a ass

June 24, 2013, 9:18 a.m.
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I have a Shimano shark fin on my old GT Avalanche. I also have a Chain Watcher on it.

The bike also has a U-brake and so does my old GT Karakaroum (sp).

On the GT frames, with the seat stays so low due to the triple triangle design, there was space to have the old canti-brakes as your feet and ankles would clip the ends of the brakes.

U-brakes are quite powerful, certainly better than regular canti brakes but probably V-brakes have even more power.

It a bit of modification to the mounts, Maguara hydraulic brakes will fit U-brake frames. I have pics somewhere.

July 7, 2013, 11:32 a.m.
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Sweet.
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/bik/3892253679.html

July 7, 2013, 2:21 p.m.
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Sweet.
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/bik/3892253679.html

I like how vintage means triple the price… this one maybe double.

Aug. 9, 2013, 2:20 p.m.
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http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/nvn/bik/3983478622.html

"Nobody really gives a shit that you don't like the thing that you have no firsthand experience with." Dave

Aug. 9, 2013, 2:50 p.m.
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^
Knob gobbler.

Wrong. Always.

Aug. 9, 2013, 2:51 p.m.
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ya i have seen them on the lower stays , Paul,s response was looks to be a late 80,s era frame , and at that time Canti brakes where just hitting the market and customers had the option of ordering the frames with either brake design mounts , so basically for some it was personal preference on what design was used

My 1983 nishiki bushwhacker had canti's both front and rear. In 1988 I upgraded to. Fisher which had the ubrake under the seat stay. Of course both bikes had the required bio pace chain rings.

Aug. 9, 2013, 2:55 p.m.
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http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/nvn/bik/3983478622.html

That makes me boner. Shame it says Marin instead of Manitou. Probably be $600 + then.

Aug. 9, 2013, 3:42 p.m.
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how's that boner now?

Shredding hypothetical gnarr

Aug. 9, 2013, 3:48 p.m.
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http://www.chopmtb.com/2012/06/28/retro-geoff-ringles-yeti-arc-aslt/

Aug. 9, 2013, 5:02 p.m.
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http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/nvn/bik/3983478622.html

Ha, I guessed straight away who is selling that. He has a pretty epic collection. I agree on the Manitou comment, although the 'performance' will be similar!

treezz
wow you are a ass

Aug. 9, 2013, 9:37 p.m.
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Speaking of crazy,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1991-Gary-Fisher-Procaliber-Mountain-Bike-20-Bicycle-Suntour-XC-Comp-/350558611359?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames[HTML_REMOVED]hash=item519eebe79f

www.thisiswhy.co.uk

www.teamnfi.blogspot.com/

Aug. 16, 2013, 10:05 a.m.
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http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/bik/3905405976.html

Shredding hypothetical gnarr

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