It used to be that the good Continental tires were made in Germany because only those tires had black chili rubber. I have an enduro soft Zynatol from last year made in Germany and this year I put a Kryptotal FR on also in enduro soft. To my thumbnail it feels kind of hard compared to the old Zynotal. The Kryptotal does not ride as well. Not as grippy I think. But the two tires are supposed to be the same compound. Kind of pisses me off. The cost of the Krytotal was the same as the German tire.
Posted by: andy-eunson
It used to be that the good Continental tires were made in Germany because only those tires had black chili rubber. I have an enduro soft Zynatol from last year made in Germany and this year I put a Kryptotal FR on also in enduro soft. To my thumbnail it feels kind of hard compared to the old Zynotal. The Kryptotal does not ride as well. Not as grippy I think. But the two tires are supposed to be the same compound. Kind of pisses me off. The cost of the Krytotal was the same as the German tire.
Bought through AliExpress?
Posted by: Endurimil
Posted by: andy-eunson
It used to be that the good Continental tires were made in Germany because only those tires had black chili rubber. I have an enduro soft Zynatol from last year made in Germany and this year I put a Kryptotal FR on also in enduro soft. To my thumbnail it feels kind of hard compared to the old Zynotal. The Kryptotal does not ride as well. Not as grippy I think. But the two tires are supposed to be the same compound. Kind of pisses me off. The cost of the Krytotal was the same as the German tire.
Bought through AliExpress?
Nope. Bought at Dunbar in Squamish. It’s not as bad as I thought. I pinched more knobs today but the centre knobs do seem a bit harder but it’s just a thumb nail test. And the side knobs are pretty similar I think. Hardly scientific but others were taking about this.
Posted by: andy-eunson
Posted by: Endurimil
Posted by: andy-eunson
It used to be that the good Continental tires were made in Germany because only those tires had black chili rubber. I have an enduro soft Zynatol from last year made in Germany and this year I put a Kryptotal FR on also in enduro soft. To my thumbnail it feels kind of hard compared to the old Zynotal. The Kryptotal does not ride as well. Not as grippy I think. But the two tires are supposed to be the same compound. Kind of pisses me off. The cost of the Krytotal was the same as the German tire.
Bought through AliExpress?
Nope. Bought at Dunbar in Squamish. It’s not as bad as I thought. I pinched more knobs today but the centre knobs do seem a bit harder but it’s just a thumb nail test. And the side knobs are pretty similar I think. Hardly scientific but others were taking about this.
Interesting. And who knows what has happened.
To be honest my initial thought around it was something like what tire makers like Kenda do. That is make certain models of tire with the bare minimum- no soft compound, kevlar bead, and so on. Which they then distribute to companies like Canadian Tire. Kenda did this till say 2014 with the Kenda Kinetic 26x2.35 tire. Knobs a wee bit harder then the other more expensive versions. Still did the same job really. They discontinued that version and went with a different tread pattern with similar rubber which can see in Canadian Tire.
I’ve read that super softs are made in Germany. I have a Kryptotal R in enduro soft and it’s from china, the Argotal super soft DH is from Germany.
Super Soft for front and Soft for rear....
I have Kryptotal Enduro soft on the front of my chromag. I would say it's grip feels around MaxTerra level. I like the tread pattern a lot and find it turns predictably and confidently. I will probably move it to the rear and get a super soft front in the fall. I wish the Enduro casing had super soft but I guess I'll just go with the DH casing.
I was initially irked when I bought it and realized it was made in China but it hasn't disappointed.
Hard to install though, a real work out.
Posted by: Ripbro
I’ve read that super softs are made in Germany. I have a Kryptotal R in enduro soft and it’s from china, the Argotal super soft DH is from Germany.
I've read the samething- and I think they even stamp Made in Germany
On a side note- how are you liking the Argotal? I have the Kryptotal DH SS now, but wonder about the Argotal for the fall season
The horror. My German made super soft dh has a different shade of yellow than my Chinese enduro soft. Tge German is more maxxis yellow than the amber of the Chinese one. The horror.
Nice tires tho.
I also had Enduro Soft tires which were made in Germany. Now I am on a chinese one with white lettering. Seem a bit harder compound but have been fine for dry riding.
I love the Super Soft Krypto Front, the dh super soft Argotal is another notch better on rooty, wet, natural terrain. It is astonishingly grippy and would work well on the north shore, I‘d think. It rides even perfectly fine on bermed, machine built stuff. Not as perfect as a Krypto there, but totally not-sketchy.
That said, the Kryptotal DH works so good and consistent across all conditions and soil types I‘d happily run that all year long, everywhere.
No second guessing…
When a trail becomes „unridable“ with a Kryptotal super soft and making an Argotal „necessary“ I‘d worry about destroying the trail in these particular conditions. But I am neither a world cupper, nor an EDR-E-pro :D
Posted by: ehfour
Posted by: Ripbro
I’ve read that super softs are made in Germany. I have a Kryptotal R in enduro soft and it’s from china, the Argotal super soft DH is from Germany.
I've read the samething- and I think they even stamp Made in Germany
On a side note- how are you liking the Argotal? I have the Kryptotal DH SS now, but wonder about the Argotal for the fall season
Argotal is now my favourite front tire. Super grippy for all my local conditions, I’ve yet to have it unpredictablly wash out on me, something I did a few times a season on my assegai.
Maxxis had to copy it with the new high roller…
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