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Cane Creek Double Barrel Tuning Chat

Sept. 10, 2015, 8:58 a.m.
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I'm running 2 and a half of the blue spacers in the DB Inline on the Range. This gives the shock a nice ramp up, allowing less air pressure, better suspension performance at sag, yet good bottom out adsorption. I found on the longer travel Range I had to minimize the HSC and HSR on the Inline. For the Prime as a suggestion extrapolating from my Range settings, try 2 of the blue spacers, one turn out on both the high speed adjusters, and 10-12 clicks out on the low speed adjusters.

Thanks! Best advice so far!!

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Sept. 10, 2015, 12:14 p.m.
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As to why I chose the inline? Yes - it was a weight reduction choice. My Prime is the pre-production frame, and is a bit of a porker. I will take any weight loss on it I can.

i went down that road for a bit… lipstick on a pig

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Sept. 10, 2015, 5 p.m.
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The best advice was likely DrewMs but it doesn't jive with your train of thought or recent purchase so you choose to ignore it.

Mildly curious, I assume you purchased the shock at a good price?

An Inline is a DBA XV without the piggyback?

Why slag free swag?:rolleyes:

ummm, as your doctor i recommend against riding with a scaphoid fracture.

Sept. 10, 2015, 10:46 p.m.
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The best advice was likely DrewMs but it doesn't jive with your train of thought or recent purchase so you choose to ignore it.

Mildly curious, I assume you purchased the shock at a good price?

An Inline is a DBA XV without the piggyback?

The Inline isn't really just a DBA XV without the piggyback. It's a completely different architecture, and the internal fluid routing is different. In my experience on the 160 mm travel Range the Inline was at the limit in flowing enough oil during severe high speed compression. Cane Creek fully admits this and suggests that a 160 mm is on the upper limit of it's intended use. As such I ran minimal HSC on the Inline on the Range, but was really happy with the way the shock performed.

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Sept. 11, 2015, 9:17 a.m.
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The best advice was likely DrewMs but it doesn't jive with your train of thought or recent purchase so you choose to ignore it.

Mildly curious, I assume you purchased the shock at a good price?

An Inline is a DBA XV without the piggyback?

So because the air volume in the inline is a little large for working well with the Prime's leverage rate, it is no good for the Prime…..EXCEPT the air volume can be adjusted so it will work well…

Keith (at Banshee) referred to it as a 5 way adjustable shock with the volume reduction being the 5th…

So - to sum up. The air volume is the issue. The volume can be adjusted. It is still a lighter shock than the regular DB. I don't see the problem.

The Inline isn't really just a DBA XV without the piggyback. It's a completely different architecture, and the internal fluid routing is different. In my experience on the 160 mm travel Range the Inline was at the limit in flowing enough oil during severe high speed compression. Cane Creek fully admits this and suggests that a 160 mm is on the upper limit of it's intended use. As such I ran minimal HSC on the Inline on the Range, but was really happy with the way the shock performed.

Good to know. I deduce that the Inline will work better on the Prime as it has less travel - 130 mm only.

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Sept. 11, 2015, 9:43 a.m.
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I'm running 2 and a half of the blue spacers in the DB Inline on the Range. This gives the shock a nice ramp up, allowing less air pressure, better suspension performance at sag, yet good bottom out adsorption. I found on the longer travel Range I had to minimize the HSC and HSR on the Inline. For the Prime as a suggestion extrapolating from my Range settings, try 2 of the blue spacers, one turn out on both the high speed adjusters, and 10-12 clicks out on the low speed adjusters.

The spacers I was provided (2 of them) consist of 5 "strips" that can be cut out to make 5 small spacers - is that what you mean by "2"?

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Sept. 11, 2015, 9:39 p.m.
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Sorry you were here asking for advice.

My mind was/is still in mtbr validate my purchase forum mode.

Why slag free swag?:rolleyes:

ummm, as your doctor i recommend against riding with a scaphoid fracture.

Sept. 14, 2015, 6:52 a.m.
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bumping so maybe Rivs or Timmigrant will tell me if they have installed X number of small spacers or large spacers…

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Sept. 21, 2015, 4:06 p.m.
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bumping again so someone can tell me if they have put 2 "big" spacers or if they are using the small spacers (i.e. the big spacers can be cut into 5 small spacers each…)

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Sept. 22, 2015, 6:05 p.m.
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bumping again so someone can tell me if they have put 2 "big" spacers or if they are using the small spacers (i.e. the big spacers can be cut into 5 small spacers each…)

PM Sent. Sorry for the tardy reply. I guess I hadn't been in here for a little while!

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Sept. 25, 2015, 11:12 a.m.
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PM Sent. Sorry for the tardy reply. I guess I hadn't been in here for a little while!

Thanks for getting back to me!

Two "large" spacers have been installed. Parking lot tests indicate a more progressive feel to the shock. Next up will be some on trail shock tuning to get everything dialed in.

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Sept. 29, 2015, 9:13 a.m.
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Had a first ride with the spacers installed yesterday.

Not bottoming out all the way anymore. Started to dial back the low speed rebound and compression. Per Timmigrant's suggestion, I would dial these almost all the way off. On the next ride I'm going to start with a couple of turns in from completely off and see how it feels.

Still need to tweak high speed compression and rebound. No harsh bottoming at all, but I wouldn't mind a bit more support.

Overall still better than the DHX-5 I had on the bike before.

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