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Bike Computers - What's Good?

Feb. 17, 2022, 9:03 a.m.
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I had the Lezyne mini colour and didn't like how hard it was to read/unintuitive it was to use, now I have the Garmin 830 and it's great. Much like the 530 but with touch AND buttons, so you get to pick. Surprisingly easy to use the touch function in the cold/wet with gloves on.

I bought a mount, and speed and cadence sensors for each of my bikes, so I just move it to the bike that I'm riding and it auto links to the sensors and is good to go.  You don't need the sensors but it was a cheap way to get additional functionality and accuracy out of the computer.

Feb. 17, 2022, 8:11 p.m.
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I just got a Garmin 530.  A Garmin 130 would have been fine for my computer needs but for the battery life.  530 is 20hr, 130 is 12hr and the Wahoo's seemed pretty short battery life too.  Just a point to be aware of if it matters

Aug. 16, 2022, 10:32 p.m.
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Ok, I ended buying a Garmin 530 as a result of this thread. I used it for several months, and sold it last night. Thinking of getting an Element Bolt V2. 

The 530 is a good device and it was awesome for seeing where I was without having to grab my phone, which often doesn't get service in the mountains anyway. The thing is... I learned where all the sanctioned trails are pretty quick, then I didn't need the Garmin anyway. The unsanctioned stuff is where the real fun begins, but it's obviously not on the device, and posting your darkside rides is kind of a dick move so my use for this became pretty limited. 

Unfortunately the 530 has quite a clunky interface. 5 buttons, including two up/down buttons, a power button, "yes", "back", and start/stop. Despite all these it makes poor use of them, you are constantly scrolling up and down menus, changing your hand orientation to press yes or back and trying to figure out where you are in the menus. Also, it has a "moving" display and a "stopped" display, so if you look down at your map while approaching a crossroads then stop, it flips to a different map view (north up vs aligned to your movement). Then a GPS error makes it think you started again and it flips back. Surprise! Want to pan the map? Go through a few menus first. Then the up/down buttons act as... up/down. Oh? you wanted to pan east/west? press a different button to change up/down to left/right, then pan. Oh? Want to zoom in? That's right, press the context button to switch modes, then zoom in. Now press it again to go back to panning. It's a pain in the ass. Also the screen/colour/quality isn't great. Think early smartphones from the 2000s. 

But... I still had some Squamish and backcountry rides planned, so I kept it around. The trailforks integration will let me easily create routes online, then follow the turn instructions like on Google Maps. Then the panning won't matter, since I will always be on the route, right?

Well not so fast. I ended up creating and saving a Pemberton route on my laptop, then I  headed straight to the trailhead eager to get a quick ride in before the forecasted high temp of 39* kicked in (this was in late July). Turned out I didn't have cell reception there. No problem, I can just load the route from the phone to the device right? Wrong. Didn't load. I should have turned back, but didn't thinking I could just make it quick based on my memory. Very wrong. I sweated a lot that day. Yes, it was my mistake for not thoroughly learning how the Garmin works, but It also should be much easier to sideload routes onto a mapping device. 

Also, note you'll need two apps for your phone to do the Trailforks integration - Garmin Connect and Connect IQ. Connect IQ is like an app store for your 530, and you need to load the CIQ trailforks app to get the phone and Garmin talking right. It's very stupid. 

Other thoughts: the 530 has a propensity for inane bullshit metrics. Every time I ended a ride it asked me how much water I drank, how many calories I consumed before I could finish the ride. What?? the Garmin 130 was so slick, I could end a ride with a few button presses and the ride would be on Strave before I knew it. Now I have to click through several menus of nonsense before it saves. It also makes up a few nonsense metrics of it's own like "flow" and "grit". I have no clue what those are supposed to be and I couldn't care less. It also counts jumps, which seems kind of cool except half the rolls on the shore are jumps according to Garmin. Also it likes to occasionally inform me that I am acclimatized to a certain altitude, and I can track my acclimatization though another menu in the app. I can't wait to never do that. 

Overall, the 530 was a step up from whipping out the phone every 30 seconds and trying to keep my fingers dry while swiping and the touch screen. Is it worth the cost? meh, not really. Unless you find cycling more interesting when presented to you in spreadsheet form, at which point I really have nothing to say to you.

Aug. 17, 2022, 6:08 a.m.
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you‘ll love the bolt, although it also needs a connection to load the track if you haven’t already synced the wahoo app before

Aug. 17, 2022, 1:28 p.m.
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To be fair, you can turn off the irritating stuff in the 530 - like hydration, nutrition, flow, grit, heat/elevation acclimation, etc. 

Agree about the super clunky zoom/pan controls though. Makes me almost wish for a touchscreen.

Aug. 17, 2022, 7:59 p.m.
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I've got 4 months on a Garmin 530. I like it. I've turned off all the extraneous alerts and I just use the map screen in default mode so I am not messing with the menus often on a ride. Most of the time I start the unit and don't touch it again until I am done riding. I use my phone if I need to do any Trailforks "research". The 530 map has reduced my need for accessing the phone to very infrequently which was my goal in buying it. I do like the long battery life so I only need to charge it once a week or so.

I was a bit skeptical about the security of the mounting bracket, but so far I've had no issues at all.


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Aug. 17, 2022, 11:44 p.m.
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Good feedback on the 530 which I am also looking at. I ride about 50/50 road and mountain bike these days and feel like I'd just use the 530 on my road bike with an HR monitor and cadence/speed sensors (power meter some day but hard to justify the cost). If I don't care about routes/Trailforks (I use my phone for that when mountain biking) is the 530 good for basic roadie stuff? Being able to glance down and see speed, cadence, HR and eventually current/last 60s avg power etc?

Aug. 18, 2022, 6:27 a.m.
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Posted by: grambo

Good feedback on the 530 which I am also looking at. I ride about 50/50 road and mountain bike these days and feel like I'd just use the 530 on my road bike with an HR monitor and cadence/speed sensors (power meter some day but hard to justify the cost). If I don't care about routes/Trailforks (I use my phone for that when mountain biking) is the 530 good for basic roadie stuff? Being able to glance down and see speed, cadence, HR and eventually current/last 60s avg power etc?

I have setup my 530 with something like 10 fields of data for MTBing. I don't use HR/cadence sensors, but you should be able to setup the display in a way you like for the road.

Aug. 18, 2022, 10:37 a.m.
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I think it would work well for road. It has many screens that you can configure with all kinds of different data fields as well as road, mountain, and indoor modes that give you different sets of data fields. The turn by turn directions actually worked significantly better on roads since there was less screen clutter and you get beeps warning you a turn is coming.

Aug. 18, 2022, 10:43 a.m.
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Posted by: Vikb

I've got 4 months on a Garmin 530. I like it. I've turned off all the extraneous alerts and I just use the map screen in default mode so I am not messing with the menus often on a ride. Most of the time I start the unit and don't touch it again until I am done riding. I use my phone if I need to do any Trailforks "research". The 530 map has reduced my need for accessing the phone to very infrequently which was my goal in buying it. I do like the long battery life so I only need to charge it once a week or so.

I was a bit skeptical about the security of the mounting bracket, but so far I've had no issues at all.

This was the sticking point for me - I wanted to completely stop using trailforks on the phone and only use the device. Partly because my phone has poor service in the mountains, partly because rain messes up the touchscreen, partly because stopping to pull out the phone to see where stuff is really sucks compared to just looking at a map. A few times while riding with a buddy I tried looking around with the 530 and they whipped out trailforks and found it in about the same time, so I realized the interface just wasn't up to what I needed.

Aug. 18, 2022, 11:03 a.m.
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Posted by: jgshinton

This was the sticking point for me - I wanted to completely stop using trailforks on the phone and only use the device. 

Understood. I haven't found anything that compares to a modern smart phone for researching an area on the fly.  You end up back to a large $$$ touch screen device which has all the drawbacks of using a smartphone in the first place.

FWIW - you can DL'd any TF or other nav app maps you need to your phone so you don't need service to navigate/look at maps/etc....

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