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Bell, Giro and the AR-15

Feb. 22, 2018, 8:31 a.m.
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"All of those bike brands are properties of Vista Outdoor, which is also the largest ammunition manufacturer in America and the maker of the MSR15, an AR15-style assault rifle. The company is very politically active in the gun lobby, with strong ties to the NRA and its lesser-known but powerful industry cousin, the NSSF."

https://usa.streetsblog.org/2018/02/21/when-you-buy-these-bike-brands-youre-supporting-the-gun-lobby/

There's nothing better than an Orangina after cheating death with Digger.

Feb. 22, 2018, 8:50 a.m.
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Yup.

No problem, those f#ckers are out.

They've had Camelback since 2015, Giro and Bell since 2016.

Feb. 22, 2018, 9:13 a.m.
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Full list of their brands:

https://vistaoutdoor.com/brands/

Looks like Bell, Giro, Camelback and Blackburn are part of their group.

Too bad, was going to purchase some Blackburn stuff...I like what they are doing...guess not now.

Feb. 22, 2018, 9:25 a.m.
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Besides being a better helmet, yet another reason to buy a Fox Proframe over a Giro and Super 2R

Feb. 22, 2018, 10:49 a.m.
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Thanks.

Let's keep this thread updated.


 Last edited by: tungsten on Feb. 22, 2018, 10:49 a.m., edited 1 time in total.
Feb. 22, 2018, 12:40 p.m.
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Good post.

Won't be buying, if their profits go towards the gun lobby, no thanks.

It's just mind blowing the USA and their guns. It's so insane from so many angles, it's sureal.


 Last edited by: bux-bux on Feb. 22, 2018, 12:43 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
Feb. 22, 2018, 12:41 p.m.
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So disappointed in the posts in that first link. Is there no hope for the states. Blown away by the ignorance.

Feb. 22, 2018, 4:52 p.m.
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Thanks for this info. I’ve been dedicated to Giro helmets for a long time, and really like CamelBak packs and Blackburn accessories.

I won’t be buying any of them again until they separate from the firearms business and lobby.

Feb. 22, 2018, 5:01 p.m.
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So, anyone want to predict at what's going to come of all this?

Feb. 22, 2018, 5:12 p.m.
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Posted by: ReductiMat

So, anyone want to predict at what's going to come of all this?

they're going to market the "sportsman's triple" package; Giro Mad Max helmet, Camelback Rogue backpack and a rifle with a bonus box of ammo.

Feb. 22, 2018, 9:35 p.m.
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Wow, thank you for sharing that one.

I still need a new trail helmet, and was saving money for a Giro, no longer.

Even though I do not live in NA I do not want to support a company that supports the NRA.


 Last edited by: Mic on Feb. 22, 2018, 9:36 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
Feb. 22, 2018, 10:28 p.m.
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The kids down there have the power to make change. They're just young enough that they can hunt down all the companies that profit from guns and make examples of them all over social media.

And wait for a few years when they're all old enough to vote. Hopefully they get a real movement going and become single issue voters. The House is just a pawn for the gun lobbyists, but if the votes are cast, the guns will change.

Heres hoping the kids get control of the situation. Go kids go.

Regardless, they have a real problem down there. It will be very difficult to change - people will die fighting for their guns if that what it comes to.

Feb. 23, 2018, 9:47 a.m.
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Posted by: ReductiMat

So, anyone want to predict at what's going to come of all this?

At the very least a huge public shaming. Seems that The NRA has bribed their way to where they are now. So if the populace can't defeat them thru gov't channels. Social media and boycott is a great way to fight back.

I'm sure there are some great people that are going to suffer in these bike related companies that are being singled out. I really don't feel sorry for them, they knew selling out to these assholes this backlash would be coming eventually.

Lets hope this really gets traction. I wonder if the top pros will be dropping their sponsorship or hope this just goes away.

Feb. 23, 2018, 10:01 a.m.
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I'd be interested to hear Giro's thoughts on this.

The NRA does well because it has a solid base who will always vote, so they bring solid numbers to the table on top of money.

However, parent company ownership will always be tough. Was Giro was thinking NRA when they sold to them?

Will it do any good ? Who knows. It'll certainly hurt Giro but I highly doubt it will affect the lobbying/guns and ammo from Vista.

Feb. 23, 2018, 11:56 a.m.
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Posted by: ReductiMat

So, anyone want to predict at what's going to come of all this?

Around 24 hours since this info hit the webs and stocks are down.

Seems like a good start.

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/967048636923351041?s=20

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