I've been running 9* backsweep Deity and E Thirteen bars for the last 4 years and I've been looking for a 35mm bar with more backsweep (between 12 and 16). Since it's against SQ Labs' principles to make 35mm bars, any of you know any alternatives in that diameter for rougher trails? I'd also add my name to the Chromag more-backsweep bar group! (But in 35mm)
Bars with backsweep
Posted by: martin
I've been running 9* backsweep Deity and E Thirteen bars for the last 4 years and I've been looking for a 35mm bar with more backsweep (between 12 and 16). Since it's against SQ Labs' principles to make 35mm bars, any of you know any alternatives in that diameter for rougher trails? I'd also add my name to the Chromag more-backsweep bar group! (But in 35mm)
Chromag is quite stridently a one-size fits company most when it comes to things like bars and saddles. Same back and upsweep for all bars, same saddle width/length for most saddles, same chainstay lengths across a model.
Posted by: craw
Posted by: Endur-Bro
Posted by: craw
Does anyone know of a 12' bar that's 800mm wide? I've been running the SQ Lab 12' carbon in 780 and it's been surprisingly good but I think when I do a new build soon I want to go back to 800.
Could also run those weird plug width extension things
Anyone try these? They don't instill a lot of confidence.
Yeah I actually thought it was Syntace or Problem Solvers that made the inserts
Posted by: Endur-Bro
Posted by: craw
Posted by: Endur-Bro
Posted by: craw
Does anyone know of a 12' bar that's 800mm wide? I've been running the SQ Lab 12' carbon in 780 and it's been surprisingly good but I think when I do a new build soon I want to go back to 800.
Could also run those weird plug width extension things
Anyone try these? They don't instill a lot of confidence.
Yeah I actually thought it was Syntace or Problem Solvers that made the inserts
If memory serves those thread in bar width extenders weren't universal, they were an accessory for a particular bar designed to receive them. But if those Control Tech ones insert deep enough is it such a bad idea? My grips only have clamps at the inside end anyway...
It looks like Syntace makes some 12' backsweep bars but they're also 780 and 31.8. There is an opportunity here for someone to be the only brand to offer a 800/35mm clamp 12' backsweep bar (Dear Chromag). https://www.syntace.com/en_GB/products/handlebar/mountain-bike/?p=1
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*Shudders at 35mm*
Wild that my 850T sled and 300F trails bike somehow are able to be piloted with flimsy 1-1/8" bars.
Posted by: Endur-Bro
*Shudders at 35mm*
Wild that my 850T sled and 300F trails bike somehow are able to be piloted with flimsy 1-1/8" bars.
I've been back on a carbon bar in 31.8 and it is really good. I only mentioned 35 because that's what a lot of people have.
Posted by: craw
Posted by: Endur-Bro
*Shudders at 35mm*
Wild that my 850T sled and 300F trails bike somehow are able to be piloted with flimsy 1-1/8" bars.
I've been back on a carbon bar in 31.8 and it is really good. I only mentioned 35 because that's what a lot of people have.
I've read or heard an interview with an industry guy a few years ago who said that they went with 35mm mainly for aesthetic reasons. I bought a 35mm stem on my last build to feel the difference and sold my previous bike with the 31.8 so I'd like to stay with what I currently have even if it's harder to find a bar I'd like.
Even though I don't have any problems with my E13 base bar (9 back/5 up), I'd be curious to try a 12 or 16 backsweep bar. Sq Lab make a 31.8-35mm shim but I'm not sure I'd want to use that. Maybe one day they'll flinch and make their bars in 35 😅
My favorite bar ever was an old steel Bontrager Crowbar (25.4), that I had bought at the time because it was the widest available (like 2004-2005).
Posted by: martin
Posted by: craw
Posted by: Endur-Bro
*Shudders at 35mm*
Wild that my 850T sled and 300F trails bike somehow are able to be piloted with flimsy 1-1/8" bars.
I've been back on a carbon bar in 31.8 and it is really good. I only mentioned 35 because that's what a lot of people have.
I've read or heard an interview with an industry guy a few years ago who said that they went with 35mm mainly for aesthetic reasons. I bought a 35mm stem on my last build to feel the difference and sold my previous bike with the 31.8 so I'd like to stay with what I currently have even if it's harder to find a bar I'd like.
Even though I don't have any problems with my E13 base bar (9 back/5 up), I'd be curious to try a 12 or 16 backsweep bar. Sq Lab make a 31.8-35mm shim but I'm not sure I'd want to use that. Maybe one day they'll flinch and make their bars in 35 😅
My favorite bar ever was an old steel Bontrager Crowbar (25.4), that I had bought at the time because it was the widest available (like 2004-2005).
I've been using that SQ Lab 31.8-35 shim for over a year with no issues. The plan was to test the SQ Lab carbon 12' bar with my existing 35m clamp Atlas stem then buy a 31.8 NSB stem but I never got around to it.
I was using a Renthal carb0n Fatbar 31.8 30mm with NSB 32mm stem before I switched to the SQ Labs 31.8 30X alloy 16º 30mm bar with Straitline DM 28mm stem
Now that I'm back on 800mm bar (my previous Fubar osx was trimmed to 770) I can't see going narrower. It feels great where it's at. If I was to trim it (to reduce tree impacts) I'd probably only take 2.5mm off each side. I don't think 795mm would make a hell of a lot of difference as far as tree contact goes though haha. I'm a very average 5 11 height so not sure why I'm smitten with 800mm. Might be two factors: increased backsweep makes it more comfortable on my hands when gripped that wide and bike geometry.
Another budget option in line with the Ergotec mentioned earlier in the thread is the XLC HB-M19.
Sub €30 from the Germans, 31.8x780mm, 50mm rise, 12° backsweep. Just took delivery of mine today so shouldn't recommend it, but still want to celebrate that it exists.
A new option with 12° sweep and 50mm rise, plus a throw-back look crossbar, and very reasonably priced at only $69: https://ridefarr.com/product/handlebar-alloy-supa-riser-820-31-8/
I've been strongly considering a bar with this geo for my HT (already have a 12° bar that I love on my FS) and I like the way this one looks, but I'm concerned it won't play nice with my 3 year old's Kids Ride Shotgun handlebar (small problem) and that the crossbar will make it too stiff for my taste (bigger problem).
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Posted by: lookseasyfromhere
A new option with 12° sweep and 50mm rise, plus a throw-back look crossbar, and very reasonably priced at only $69: https://ridefarr.com/product/handlebar-alloy-supa-riser-820-31-8/
I've been strongly considering a bar with this geo for my HT (already have a 12° bar that I love on my FS) and I like the way this one looks, but I'm concerned it won't play nice with my 3 year old's Kids Ride Shotgun handlebar (small problem) and that the crossbar will make it too stiff for my taste (bigger problem).
If you're putting a shotgun bar on a bike like that, another alternative is to use a couple of the ends of road bar tape on the crossbar/on top of the bends. Worked great on my Protaper 3" rise bars when the KRS bar wouldn't fit well.
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Posted by: cheapondirt
Another budget option in line with the Ergotec mentioned earlier in the thread is the XLC HB-M19.
Sub €30 from the Germans, 31.8x780mm, 50mm rise, 12° backsweep. Just took delivery of mine today so shouldn't recommend it, but still want to celebrate that it exists.
50mm rise!
The one thing about the SQLabs 30X bar is it is rated for gravity applications. No idea about these others. It's my first non-Renthal bar in a long time
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