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Any options to stiffen the steerer tube on a Fox 36 fork?

July 19, 2019, 9:19 p.m.
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Posted by: thaaad

I am fairly sure Tim is correct. I'm also fairly sure that the Fox Grip2 and the Marz Grip2 are the exact same cartridge but with different knobs.

Aside from the footnuts and topcap threads the Grip2 damper doesn't touch the inside of the fork uppers or lowers at all. The wall thickness should not matter.

But I stopped working at OGC before any of the new Marz stuff came in so I don't know 100%.

This. Because the marz fork uses an e bike csu.

July 19, 2019, 10:56 p.m.
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As far as I remember they use the Rhythm CSUs and air springs, not the e-bike parts.

Edit - I just looked it up on the Marz site, for 2020 it's a Marz Grip damper, not labeled as Grip2, and a Rhythm CSU and air spring. Doesn't seem to be any Grip 2 dampers on their site but i didn't comb it very well and I just don't remember. I haven't looked in to that stuff since I left...

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July 20, 2019, 6:42 a.m.
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Might help?

July 21, 2019, 1:48 p.m.
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I felt the Z1 to be noticeably stiffer than a 36 as well. Loved the way it felt.

July 23, 2019, 10:16 a.m.
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Posted by: deadweight

Might help?

That looks super promising as it promises to eliminate the crown race ‘cracking’ noise I currently experience. However, the fact that only one shop in Germany is authorized to install the new steerer would likely make it cost prohibitive with shipping to / from Canada.

I also wonder about the viability of pressing out the old steerer and pressing / bonding in a new one. Without knowing the exact engineering behind the original steerer assembly process I wonder what the chances of the crown casting being damaged, weakened or otherwise compromised during the process. I’m not sure I’ve heard of anyone else doing something like this.

Still a really cool idea. Anyone have an idea what a Fox 36 CSU is worth in Germany? Since I’ve got scratches on one stanchion already, maybe I could get these Lemonshox guys to supply a new CSU with this steerer already pressed in and save shipping one way.

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July 23, 2019, 12:02 p.m.
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Outsider Bikes in the stateside dual crown guys. 

Aaron is a good guy to chat with.

Aug. 3, 2019, 8:58 a.m.
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Posted by: ChazzMichaelMichaels

You could go balls deep on the Mezzer? I'm not one to pontificate about stiffness but noticed no difference in flex between my Pike RC and Mattoc Pro. Just the difference began a non-functioning and functioning fork.

After some research the new Manitou Mezzer does sound like an interesting option as well and some of the marketing they have released for it does seem to back up my personal experience on the stiffness of the Fox 36 versus the RS Lyrik as well.  I never had issues with the Lyrik's stiffness or headset creaking like I've had with the Fox, although I could still feel flex under certain situations.  The Mezzer (which has 37mm stanchions) claims to be significantly stiffer than the Fox 36 and slightly more than the Lyrik according to this:

I wonder if the damper would be anywhere near as good as the Fox.

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