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2011 Rocky Mountain Slayer....Do. Want.

April 23, 2010, 10:05 p.m.
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April 23, 2010, 11:47 p.m.
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Found some pricing info in this article.

They don't lay out the components for each model though. At least, not that I've found yet.

I hope there will be a frame only option?

April 23, 2010, 11:59 p.m.
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armchair engineers abound!

can't wait to ride one.

while your sitten at your desk im banging laps.

April 24, 2010, 12:53 a.m.
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Hey, this is Alex from the vid. Just trying to explain WHY a lot of bikes have morphed into a "similar looking" platform. There are only so many ways to monkey with physics. And at the end of the day, that layout was the lightest, strongest way to build the bike. End of story.

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April 24, 2010, 9:46 a.m.
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You could do a lot worse than copying a Trance X, it's a wicked bike.

April 24, 2010, 9:56 a.m.
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Not so… The concept behind SmoothLink is that the average chain torque line (ACTL) is more parallel to the lower link than other designs. In other words, averaging all gear combos, the chain is more parallel to the lower link, not just in one gear combo.

There is a about a 6 degree difference between 22/34 and 32/11. Which one is the link "more parallel" too again ;)

I get the concept but IMO that's all it really is but I understand that you need a story just like every other manufacturer.

And as I said the bike looks great. Good angles and design details.

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April 24, 2010, 12:10 p.m.
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For those looking for specs on these… It took me about 2 minutes to find

here for additional pictures, specs amd videos

For specs, just scroll to near the bottom where they're talking about the geometry.

April 24, 2010, 12:34 p.m.
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There is a about a 6 degree difference between 22/34 and 32/11. Which one is the link "more parallel" too again ;)

I get the concept but IMO that's all it really is but I understand that you need a story just like every other manufacturer.

And as I said the bike looks great. Good angles and design details.

The thing is though, do you really climb in 32/11?

I'm guessing that the ACTL is taken over the range of gears you'd ACTUALLY use in a situation where pedal bob (and thus chain line angle) is critical, which is probably half the number of gears that are in your stated gear range.

If someone is worried about pedal bob when mashing in 32/11, they might have bigger things to worry about, like fast-approaching logs, trees, and small animals!

April 24, 2010, 1:39 p.m.
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The thing is though, do you really climb in 32/11?

I'm guessing that the ACTL is taken over the range of gears you'd ACTUALLY use in a situation where pedal bob (and thus chain line angle) is critical, which is probably half the number of gears that are in your stated gear range.

If someone is worried about pedal bob when mashing in 32/11, they might have bigger things to worry about, like fast-approaching logs, trees, and small animals!

Well if we're talking climbing have a look at the pivot centerline compared to a 22/34 gear combination ;)

Anyway I don't want to say another bad word about the bike. It looks great and I'd definitely consider buying one.

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April 24, 2010, 2:43 p.m.
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I'm guessing that the ACTL is taken over the range of gears you'd ACTUALLY use in a situation where pedal bob (and thus chain line angle) is critical, which is probably half the number of gears that are in your stated gear range.

again, from alex at rmb:

We averaged it out to the most common gear combo. I can't remember exactly what it is? 32/26? 32/24? Based on field experiments, looking at how much time we spent in which gears.

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April 24, 2010, 4:07 p.m.
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Some one was wondering what the lower end specs were:


Give you an idea.

April 24, 2010, 4:27 p.m.
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Some one was wondering what the lower end specs were:
Give you an idea.

Or you could go to my last post and see the link, then click on the picture of the specs…

April 27, 2010, 1:32 p.m.
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What is a "Rockshox Domain R' fork? I've googled it and looked at the rockshox / sram website, but can't find it. It shows up here on the slayer 30 specs sheet.

April 27, 2010, 1:34 p.m.
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probably some oem jonq

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April 27, 2010, 2:01 p.m.
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^Yep. From the pics it looks like it has external rebound adjust only, no motion control.

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