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2005 Sherman Bottoming

March 9, 2005, 6:18 p.m.
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I just got a 2005 Sherman Flick Plus 150mm and also got a Firm spring installed. I can easily ride on it and push down and bottom the fork out to a point where I can feel it hit the bottom. I have the compression dialed all the way also. I really do not want to put a x-firm spring in it. I have a firm spring in my 2004 Slider Plus and feels fine. I did have a x-firm spring in the slider and it was way to stiff to a point where it felt like a rigid. Do you think it has something to do with the oil level?

March 9, 2005, 6:31 p.m.
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Is there any air in the fork?

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March 9, 2005, 6:54 p.m.
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yeah sounds like your SPV chamber is empty…

:(

March 9, 2005, 6:55 p.m.
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Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think it's to do with the damping systems in each fork.

The 03 Slider had TPC+, which had a wider range of compression adjust towrds the endstroke and the Slider + had of course SPV, which also has bottoming adjust. The 2004 and 2005 Flicks have only TPC in which the only way to tune endstroke compression is spring weight.

That may be why you could get away with the firm in the Slider and are bottoming the FLick

March 9, 2005, 6:56 p.m.
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Originally posted by IFO
**yeah sounds like your SPV chamber is empty…

:( **

Flick Plus not Firefly

March 9, 2005, 6:58 p.m.
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hmm thats interesting… a Sherman with the "plus" name that isnt SPV..

:(

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p.s. make sure the oil lvl is correct and if so then why would u not waan go to xtra-firm spring kit if its needed???

March 9, 2005, 7:12 p.m.
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Originally posted by IFO
**hmm thats interesting… a Sherman with the "plus" name that isnt SPV..

:(

learn something new everyday…

p.s. make sure the oil lvl is correct and if so then why would u not waan go to xtra-firm spring kit if its needed??? **

I had X-firm in my 2004 Slider and WAY to stiff. so I have a firm in the slider. As for my new 2005 Flick I put a firm in it. I will check the Oil level. Is there a way to stop the mechanical bottom out, like adding a few cc's of oil like in the Marz forks with HSCV

March 9, 2005, 7:52 p.m.
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No there is not - that's one of the reasons why they developed TPC+

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March 9, 2005, 7:59 p.m.
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Originally posted by falcon171
I had X-firm in my 2004 Slider and WAY to stiff. so I have a firm in the slider. As for my new 2005 Flick I put a firm in it. I will check the Oil level. Is there a way to stop the mechanical bottom out, like adding a few cc's of oil like in the Marz forks with HSCV

i think the shermans use 16cc of oil per leg, at least spv does…i dont know if you can ad air to the tpc but if you can thats my suggestion

March 9, 2005, 9:09 p.m.
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Originally posted by illomatic
No there is not - that's one of the reasons why they developed TPC+

you have a Flick. Where you able to mechanically bottom out your fork??

March 9, 2005, 9:14 p.m.
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Yup……If I bounce up and down hard enough. It's pretty much as speed thing - a large force at low speeds will bottom it out, but on the trail this rarely happens.

Only noticeable when TRYING to bottom it.

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March 9, 2005, 9:50 p.m.
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Well I will check the oil in the fork. It shouldn't mechanically bottom out. I remember when I had a 03 Slider with TPC it would bottom out nicely when required. Does anyone elses Shermans with TPC bottom out mechanically????????

March 9, 2005, 10:02 p.m.
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Didn't the 2003 Slider have TPC+?????

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March 9, 2005, 10:04 p.m.
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Originally posted by illomatic
Didn't the 2003 Slider have TPC+?????

yes

March 9, 2005, 11:17 p.m.
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I've got an 05 Flick and had the same problem you are having. It bottomed out really easily just after servicing. It was the oil level. But could I find the proper oil level in my manual no, so I just added a little more and it was fixed. Now, whether I have the proper amount in my fork or a little extra, I couldn't tell you.

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