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SRAM release on that other site

SRAM release on that other site

GTFO. Not you, SRAM…

42t rear sprocket?! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha repeat to fade.

This just made me think about this article from the Onion:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/fuck-everything-were-doing-five-blades,11056/

Unusually, I'm actually kind of intrigued by this. The massive rear sprocket can be mounted inboard of the where the largest sprocket on a current 9/10 speed set sits due to the angle of the spokes. The usual complaints about greater speeds, that is, narrower chains, increased sensitivity to dirt and cable stretch, narrower hub flange spacing etc therefore don't apply. You're going to have some shitty chainline between the two extremes of the cassette but, still…

rumor i heard is 9-42, quite a span.
pretty much requires a 150mm hub (at least), novel freehub (thinner to accomodate a tiny 9 or 10 tooth sprocket). be nice if they just used the same 10-speed chains and spaced out the cassette more (thus the wider hub). hub spacing should really be more like 160-170 though to build into a nice strong dishless wheel, but then the ass end is very wide (heels hitting stays, etc). seems like quite a mission, and at least several new "standards".

pretty much requires a 150mm hub (at least)
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nope.

novel freehub (thinner to accomodate a tiny 9 or 10 tooth sprocket).
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true, but it seems a couple of companies were working on this already for DH applications. Wouldn't it be nice if they all converged on the same "standard"?!

be nice if they just used the same 10-speed chains and spaced out the cassette more (thus the wider hub). hub spacing should really be more like 160-170 though to build into a nice strong dishless wheel, but then the ass end is very wide (heels hitting stays, etc).

As I understand it the cassette IS wider, but it is shaped around the spokes, hence no change to flange and/or dropout spacing. As I see it, the biggest problem is the crazy range of chainlines you get between the two end ratios.

Unusually, I'm actually kind of intrigued by this. The massive rear sprocket can be mounted inboard of the where the largest sprocket on a current 9/10 speed set sits due to the angle of the spokes. The usual complaints about greater speeds, that is, narrower chains, increased sensitivity to dirt and cable stretch, narrower hub flange spacing etc therefore don't apply. You're going to have some shitty chainline between the two extremes of the cassette but, still…

One would 'need' some sort of self-chainline-adjusting crankset ;). The spider could run on needle bearings so slight sideways pressure from the chain would result in pulling the spider / rings left or right 10mm so you'd always have a decent chain-line.

An idea so stupid that someone will probably try and make it :lol:

I predict Shimano or SRAM, or both, will release the 1x12 standard in 2013. and the 1x13 in 2014. Then someone will get a brainwave for how to mitigate the problems with chain line, clearances, bearings and tension.

The brainwave will be: "why don't we put two cogs in the front and 6, maybe 7 in the back? that way we could get 14 gears, no less!"

gotta love progress.

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maybe there is a way to put a CVT box on a bike? Maybe the guys with scooters on this very forum have some ideas. :)

One would 'need' some sort of self-chainline-adjusting crankset ;). The spider could run on needle bearings so slight sideways pressure from the chain would result in pulling the spider / rings left or right 10mm so you'd always have a decent chain-line.

An idea so stupid that someone will probably try and make it :lol:

At least they could align the number of cogs with the year so parts ordering is easier!!!:dizzy:

2012 - 12 spd
2013 - 13 spd
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i wish they'd put some of this developmental energy into building a light [HTML_REMOVED] bomber full range gearhub. i have a hard time believing companies with the engineering clout of sram or shimano can't improve upon 15yr old (rohloff) technology. let's be done with goofy chainlines and finicky narrow cassettes already.

i wish they'd put some of this developmental energy into building a light [HTML_REMOVED] bomber full range gearhub. i have a hard time believing companies with the engineering clout of sram or shimano can't improve upon 15yr old (rohloff) technology. let's be done with goofy chainlines and finicky narrow cassettes already.

they don't make money if you don't break shit though..

The brainwave will be: "why don't we put two cogs in the front and 6, maybe 7 in the back? that way we could get 14 gears, no less!"

Holy shit why don't we put you in charge!?

Can't wait to try! Looks like big improvements over my current 1x10 setup.