Predicition - the previous four posters will be on ebikes before I am.
ebikes on the Shore
I won't be buying one for a very long time but...
What if I buy an ebike and commute to my riding destination and never use my truck again for travel or as a shuttle option?
Does that entitle me to shred where I want? Is this a possibility in the future for a big number of riders in the Van area? Fewer vehicles on the road would be a good thing, right?
No way Kieran, get that truck over here and shuttle me!
Whatever you do on an e-bike, you don't need to be the dude who parks his Audi in the parking lot at the top of Mountain Highway.
Posted by: Hepcat
Like some other folks here I'm sure, I've spent the last 20 years building erosion control and maintaining my local ribbon of local singletrack. 100's of hours of backbreaking (literally my discs are fucked) manual labor.
And I, for one, can't wait to see someone roost this trail uphill on an e-bike.
No really, I can't wait any longer. I've been crouched in the bushes here with a shovel cocked and ready to swing at them and I'm starting to cramp up.
lol - to be fair not everyone on an ebike is going to be roosting uphill.
I wonder which "group" does more trail damage?
- braiders
- skidders
- dh corner roosters
-ebike uphill roosters
-ebike excessive lappers
Posted by: syncro
Predicition - the previous four posters will be on ebikes before I am.
just the previous four posters?
I guess you must know that I am too much of a curmudgeon to have counted earlier posters
(I will go singlespeed hardtail first)
Posted by: taprider
Posted by: syncro
Predicition - the previous four posters will be on ebikes before I am.
just the previous four posters?
I guess you must know that I am too much of a curmudgeon to have counted earlier posters
(I will go singlespeed hardtail first)
it was more that i found it a bit amusing that you four have tended to have been the more vocal opponents over the last little bit and had posted all in a row so I was just taking the piss.
Posted by: syncro
Prediction - the previous four posters will be on ebikes before I am.
I think it's interesting that you think these e-bike-making companies, almost all of which refuse to vary seat tube angle and chainstay length by size, are suddenly qualified to tell me that I need a motor on my mountain bike.
if you all bitch about ebikes already, what are you gonna do when these things pop up on the shore?
https://electrek.co/2019/06/04/special-edition-sur-ron-electric-bike/
Posted by: craw
I think it's interesting that you think these e-bike-making companies, almost all of which refuse to vary seat tube angle and chainstay length by size, are suddenly qualified to tell me that I need a motor on my mountain bike.
qualified to tell you what you need? nah, that's not what I was thinking - it was a tongue in cheek comment. what is curious though is most of the reasons being put forth against ebikes seem to be focused around trail damage or user conflict and not about an individuals preference to actually pedal and do the work themselves. imo i think that's probably the most key determinant in whether someone will eventually end up on an ebike if/when they become more socially acceptable.
Posted by: Sethimus
if you all bitch about ebikes already, what are you gonna do when these things pop up on the shore?
https://electrek.co/2019/06/04/special-edition-sur-ron-electric-bike/
if it's not pedal assist but throttle control then it can fuck off from the trails. despite what the video claims - that's a motorcycle.
Posted by: Kieran
I won't be buying one for a very long time but...
What if I buy an ebike and commute to my riding destination and never use my truck again for travel or as a shuttle option?
Does that entitle me to shred where I want? Is this a possibility in the future for a big number of riders in the Van area? Fewer vehicles on the road would be a good thing, right?
Well it certainly wouldn't address maintenance, conflict or access/permission issues... So no entitlement from where I stand.
Posted by: syncro
Posted by: Sethimus
if you all bitch about ebikes already, what are you gonna do when these things pop up on the shore?
https://electrek.co/2019/06/04/special-edition-sur-ron-electric-bike/
if it's not pedal assist but throttle control then it can fuck off from the trails. despite what the video claims - that's a motorcycle.
And so we circle back to once again, who is going to regulate which electric bikes are permitted? Yes.. I know they classified into different classes, but you think anyone is going to give a shit? This is why COTA, BLM, and other Assns in the States have said piss off to all. Self regulation won't work, its so obvious. But Ya doesn't that bike look like fun? You can buy a pedal upgrade too, makes it a bike right?
https://lunacycle.com/sur-ron-pedal-system/
love this thread
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Posted by: Brocklanders
Posted by: syncro
Posted by: Sethimus
if you all bitch about ebikes already, what are you gonna do when these things pop up on the shore?
https://electrek.co/2019/06/04/special-edition-sur-ron-electric-bike/
if it's not pedal assist but throttle control then it can fuck off from the trails. despite what the video claims - that's a motorcycle.
And so we circle back to once again, who is going to regulate which electric bikes are permitted? Yes.. I know they classified into different classes, but you think anyone is going to give a shit? This is why COTA, BLM, and other Assns in the States have said piss off to all. Self regulation won't work, its so obvious. But Ya doesn't that bike look like fun? You can buy a pedal upgrade too, makes it a bike right?
https://lunacycle.com/sur-ron-pedal-system/
love this thread
Same could be said then for riders shredding down climbing trails, skidding through corners, giving right of way to climbers....
Self regulating does work but keep looking for reasons to hate.
Posted by: syncro
Posted by: craw
I think it's interesting that you think these e-bike-making companies, almost all of which refuse to vary seat tube angle and chainstay length by size, are suddenly qualified to tell me that I need a motor on my mountain bike.
qualified to tell you what you need? nah, that's not what I was thinking - it was a tongue in cheek comment. what is curious though is most of the reasons being put forth against ebikes seem to be focused around trail damage or user conflict and not about an individuals preference to actually pedal and do the work themselves. imo i think that's probably the most key determinant in whether someone will eventually end up on an ebike if/when they become more socially acceptable.
I totally took your comment as tongue in cheek. TBH I'm not against ebikes necessarily. I just don't like how they've chosen to build and promote them. I wish manufacturers made them less powerful and less obviously about to morph into e-dirtbikes.
I haven't seen one that even comes close to something I'd want to ride, let alone fit me. I've never been motivated by making riding easier; I want my rides to be longer, steeper, tie more loops together, crazier technical climbs. I like climbing precisely because it's difficult. I don't like chairlifts and shuttling precisely because removing climbing removes a key source of pleasure and satisfaction from my riding experience. How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat??
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