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MEAT Engines 2023...

March 21, 2023, 11:50 p.m.
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Posted by: Blofeld

Need gears less? 🤔

I was a little disappointed to see that the whole LG cassette lineup is on carriers or riveted together. The custom stack of 6 or 7 cogs on an HG SS hub idea is appealing. It would give a huge amount of tire clearance…more so if it was 157…and even spoke tension.

Spotted this a while ago,

https://www.rivbike.com/products/cassettes-7

March 22, 2023, 12:27 a.m.
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Posted by: velocipedestrian

Posted by: fartymarty

If this thread has taught me anything it's that we need less gears.  Therefore I'm more than happy with 148.

Fewer.

That's the one.  (English wasn't my fav subject at school).

March 22, 2023, 12:35 a.m.
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Posted by: Endurimil

Posted by: Blofeld

Need gears less? 🤔

I was a little disappointed to see that the whole LG cassette lineup is on carriers or riveted together. The custom stack of 6 or 7 cogs on an HG SS hub idea is appealing. It would give a huge amount of tire clearance…more so if it was 157…and even spoke tension.

Spotted this a while ago,

https://www.rivbike.com/products/cassettes-7

These look awesome.  Need to find someone in UK with them.

March 22, 2023, 4:52 a.m.
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Posted by: fartymarty

Posted by: Endurimil

Posted by: Blofeld

Need gears less? 🤔

I was a little disappointed to see that the whole LG cassette lineup is on carriers or riveted together. The custom stack of 6 or 7 cogs on an HG SS hub idea is appealing. It would give a huge amount of tire clearance…more so if it was 157…and even spoke tension.

Spotted this a while ago,

https://www.rivbike.com/products/cassettes-7

These look awesome.  Need to find someone in UK with them.

That is a great find. The 6mm offset they mention (to run 7 gears at 9 speed spacing) beats LinkGlide 9s and whatever 2.5mm hanger-jamming SRAM was playing at yesterday.

March 22, 2023, 5:14 a.m.
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Andrew - I see a little project for you...  The 42 tooth 7 speed cassette, a Microshift 7 speed trigger shifter and a Zee mech (assuming it will work for 7 speeds) - this would be a sweet budget alternative to Cues.

March 22, 2023, 5:35 a.m.
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Those 7-speed cassettes are made by S-Ride (https://www.s-ridebike.com/cassettes.html), and they do 7-12 Spd (all on HG bodies!) in a selection of ranges.

March 22, 2023, 7:10 a.m.
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Thanks - assume the 7 speed one is just an 8 with the 11 tooth removed.

March 22, 2023, 7:19 a.m.
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Posted by: nothingfuture

Those 7-speed cassettes are made by S-Ride (https://www.s-ridebike.com/cassettes.html), and they do 7-12 Spd (all on HG bodies!) in a selection of ranges.

The Rivendell cassettes peaked my interest but I have enough cassette parts at home to make my own #-36t cassettes for a while and with my 26t ring I don’t need bigger.

Posted by: fartymarty

Andrew - I see a little project for you...  The 42 tooth 7 speed cassette, a Microshift 7 speed trigger shifter and a Zee mech (assuming it will work for 7 speeds) - this would be a sweet budget alternative to Cues.

I don’t know what MicroShift triggers play nice with but a friction Thumbie will play with anything.

I like that MicroShift exists, though either by manufacturing issues or sheer numbers of adopters there seems to be an ever increasing wave of dissatisfaction with performance and longevity lately. I do suspect CUES 4000 will eat its lunch for less money. Especially on the kids bikes where MS gets a lot of spec but the clutch-on shifting is fairly heavy for little hands.

March 22, 2023, 11:16 a.m.
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Though the latest step in the robot revolution may have overshadowed them somewhat, I do have some pieces of good news for the MEAT crew. First, TRP just released a new fully mechanical(!) drivetrain, and it looks cool. Second, Chris King 6-bolt hubs are back.

March 22, 2023, 11:29 a.m.
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Posted by: snowsnake

Though the latest step in the robot revolution may have overshadowed them somewhat, I do have some pieces of good news for the MEAT crew. First, TRP just released a new fully mechanical(!) drivetrain, and it looks cool. Second, Chris King 6-bolt hubs are back.

The TRP drivetrain looks interesting.

The Chris King hubs are the new version of their hub, just in a 6-Bolt package. They are not the old hub coming back. There’s no needle bearing supporting the axle in the freehub driver.


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March 22, 2023, 1:09 p.m.
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Posted by: gubbinalia

Slowly simmered into Super Boost: anyone else seeing the news about the new SRAM electro-group making SB157 "obsolete" on trail bikes?

I'm pretty sure that's a piece of incorrect inference by Pinkbike making the rounds as fact, seeing as bikeradar just released their long-term review of Transmission on an Arrival. My understanding is that it just makes superboost cranks unnecessary.

March 22, 2023, 4:26 p.m.
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Posted by: velocipedestrian

Posted by: skooks

Do these links work?

https://nsmb.com/photos/view/21350/

https://nsmb.com/photos/view/21348/

https://nsmb.com/photos/view/21349/

Thanks! How did you embed the images?  

These were all taken on my former commute along Lougheed Highway/Winston.

March 22, 2023, 4:31 p.m.
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So assume this rebirth of thru axle mounted derailleurs comes with some kind of catch for our own good?

March 22, 2023, 4:46 p.m.
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Posted by: AndrewMajor
The Chris King hubs are the new version of their hub, just in a 6-Bolt package. They are not the old hub coming back. There’s no needle bearing supporting the axle in the freehub driver.

Are you still seeing those hubs coming in with clanking issues? A few people were writing about it on MTBR last summer, but that thread has been quiet for a while now. A batch of driveshells were out of tolerance, apparently. It didn’t seem like a good reason to scrap the new (less drag, longer service intervals) design. Any other intel to share?

March 22, 2023, 6:34 p.m.
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Posted by: Blofeld

Posted by: AndrewMajor
The Chris King hubs are the new version of their hub, just in a 6-Bolt package. They are not the old hub coming back. There’s no needle bearing supporting the axle in the freehub driver.

Are you still seeing those hubs coming in with clanking issues? A few people were writing about it on MTBR last summer, but that thread has been quiet for a while now. A batch of driveshells were out of tolerance, apparently. It didn’t seem like a good reason to scrap the new (less drag, longer service intervals) design. Any other intel to share?

Who told you the new version has longer service intervals? That hasn’t been my experience at all. Long term maintenance costs will be higher with the new version too as the bearings are expensive to replace and less supported without the needle bearing.

I will give you less initial drag. The new hubs don’t have the break-in period of the old ones. I don’t see that as a net positive but I can see the other side.

I haven’t experienced clunking or out of tolerance drive shells. But for folks who ride a lot the creak chasing projects are for real.

Quite happy to have a set of the last gen Boost hubs with a needle bearing in the driver and we have two other sets of 142/135 in regular use in my household and my brother has a pair of older hubs on both his rigs. Fantastic long term purchases all.

I wouldn’t actively dissuade anyone who wants a new King hub from buying it but I’d be buying something else personally and that’s what I say when asked.


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