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Jan. 7, 2025, 5:24 a.m. -  Lynx .

Well Kos, as long as you can completely disable the motor, you're good then ;-)  Just so's you know I fully understand the differences between the bikes, I have a friend who bought an Sworks one and he'd come on rides with the motor turned off and he had no problems, bike weighed about 36lbs. Sadly he just bought a full powered one because when he rode with the other electric MOTOR bike riders, he just couldn't keep up. People think that those of us who "hate on" electric MOTOR bikes haven't tried one, but I did, or at least as far as I needed to prove the point to myself that even in "eco" mode the damn thing did pretty much all the work for you. I hoped on one, it was in almost the hardest gear, I lightly pressed on the pedals and the thing shot off like I'd given it all and was a pro level rider, that's not for me and yeah, sorry.   If you don't have some physical impairment, you're just lazy, full stop, don't give a flying fvck what you think or say. The thing about don't have the time - make time, no one has a problem telling me I should work harder if I want nice/fancy things, but when I tell them that they should work harder if they want to do more laps, I'm the dick, right :-\ I choose where I spend my time and it's not chasing money and material things, I hold onto and use stuff as long as I can, 50% of my clothes are hand me downs from family that were being tossed because they were "old", yet to me were still perfectly fine. Maybe those who aren't closed minded might understand when they read this, but I'm guessing that most here won't...but I started MTBing when I was 34, because I had been heavy into computers and gaming for about 7 years and had a resting HR of 74bpm. I pulled out my old 40lb, steel, 80s Schwinn road bike and started to ride to try and build my fitness, but it was always too small, bought in college at the end of the 80s for $20 USD. So I decided that I'd get a new bike and had had friends that used to ride MTB in the late 90s and thought, yeah, that'd be a fun way to get exercise and so bought an "expensive" MTB with 2 wheelsets, one with semi slicks, the other with knobbies, the plan being to continue to build fitness on the road and then when I got fitter, to go exploring and see what trails I could find. Well, I put in the hard work, found a short 10 mile loop that took me about an hour and 10min when I first started and within a couple months had that down to about 40 minutes and had dropped my resting HR to 60bpm. So yeah, I take offense to people who, to me corrupt the sport, fuelled by nasty corporate greed to sell more. Oh and to those who always bring up, but shuttling's OK BS, no, no it's not and I don't do it. When we went to Crested Butte, Colorado, we pedalled the first 2 days, 26 miles and 6 hours the first, 20ish and 4.5 hours the 2nd and then the next 2 were supposed to be in the bike park. I tried the first day using the lift, did I think 3 laps in total, did not enjoy it, ended up just going walking sight seeing, the next day I had brought my own bike and so had to pack it, so agreed to do one last ride with the guys in the morning. While they waited for the lift to open, I pedalled up, ended with about 5 miles of climbing on sweet single track and it was the absolute best ride.

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