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I really have little sympathy for these NIMBY zealots.
I seriously believe that these saboteurs have a psychological issue(s) needing
to be dealt with.
due to the area where these trails are located, we are talking about upper
middle class people. Folks who have worked hard most their lives and now feel
that its their time to enjoy it, which is also fair. The problem is, like most
NIMBY types, is they are still living with the same expectations as they did
when they moved in decades ago. Despite the obviously, massive changes in the
region due to MTBing. The "North Shore" has become legendary for not only the
completely innovative and brilliant trails built by hard working volunteers
and the many who lobbied to allow bikes but created new bike types altogether!
While most interactions with other trail users have been good there are a
small number of these folks who seem to have an inability to even try to
understand anyone elses views or the fact they are just a right to use the
trail. These people arent typically bad but seem to feel a huge sense of
entitlement because they lived there for whatever amount or their home is
worth whatever and that when they hiked 20 years back they did so with out
bikers and by some miracle still expect the same as if their expectations
trump others. Why do they constantly feel right? Perhaps because they no
longer get out as much outside of their hike and the hike becomes a focal
point in their existance vs others who worry about kids, work, making the
mortgage. These few hikers all agree with each other and become further
deluded. This is perhaps a bad comparison but its similar in a mild way to a
cult. Now they see bikers as enemy, no matter how you ride or polite you are
they treat you like an enemy! I have little doubt, as sick as it sounds, that
IF someone did end up in hospital due to their "deeds" they would feel a great
sense of revenge and have little empathy.
To them its war.
If they truly were innocent and believed what they were doing was right, they
would know then that most people would support them but its the latter they
never cared to think of. Now their names are public along with several
published comments that only support the allegation this was a war to them.
The husband has come out to say his wife just wanted to slow them down. BS! If
they have watched MTBers there for 10 years, they now it takes a lot to slow
one down. She is trying to cause harm via an accident, which it isn't when you
have narcissistic and deluded older people setting it up!
I have had confrontations with lots of people who "think" they know the rules
but don't and tryi g to be polite and explain the actual rules(in this case
its a local lake with single track and fire roads depending on the side) I was
on the fire road and this guy had no interest in learning the difference
between one and the other, whatever, I get it, you have to win because its not
about what is right but your ego. However, if I saw folks doing what is
clearly designed to hurt people, that is way way different. I look at this as
this guy wants to hurt me and he doesn't even know me, why? So he can win some
twisted war going on in his/her head? I am not going to be polite. I will be
loud and threatening and these folks won't do squat because they are too
cowardice to confront bikers in person, clearly. After hoping some idiot opens
the door for me to protect myself by pushing me then its on and frankly,
knowing what they were doing, I would hope I could restrain myself.
This last bit isn't what I am endorcing, I am just saying that may be my
reaction and I know others with short fuses. These NIMBY terrorists need a
direct reminder that their actions have consequences. Toying with peoples
lives over your obsession is weak. Act your age or face the consequences.
I wonder how many hours of volunteer work and trail maintenance is volunteered
by the other user groups compared to cyclists?
Feb. 1, 2015, 8:58 p.m. - lumberjake
#!markdown I really have little sympathy for these NIMBY zealots. I seriously believe that these saboteurs have a psychological issue(s) needing to be dealt with. due to the area where these trails are located, we are talking about upper middle class people. Folks who have worked hard most their lives and now feel that its their time to enjoy it, which is also fair. The problem is, like most NIMBY types, is they are still living with the same expectations as they did when they moved in decades ago. Despite the obviously, massive changes in the region due to MTBing. The "North Shore" has become legendary for not only the completely innovative and brilliant trails built by hard working volunteers and the many who lobbied to allow bikes but created new bike types altogether! While most interactions with other trail users have been good there are a small number of these folks who seem to have an inability to even try to understand anyone elses views or the fact they are just a right to use the trail. These people arent typically bad but seem to feel a huge sense of entitlement because they lived there for whatever amount or their home is worth whatever and that when they hiked 20 years back they did so with out bikers and by some miracle still expect the same as if their expectations trump others. Why do they constantly feel right? Perhaps because they no longer get out as much outside of their hike and the hike becomes a focal point in their existance vs others who worry about kids, work, making the mortgage. These few hikers all agree with each other and become further deluded. This is perhaps a bad comparison but its similar in a mild way to a cult. Now they see bikers as enemy, no matter how you ride or polite you are they treat you like an enemy! I have little doubt, as sick as it sounds, that IF someone did end up in hospital due to their "deeds" they would feel a great sense of revenge and have little empathy. To them its war. If they truly were innocent and believed what they were doing was right, they would know then that most people would support them but its the latter they never cared to think of. Now their names are public along with several published comments that only support the allegation this was a war to them. The husband has come out to say his wife just wanted to slow them down. BS! If they have watched MTBers there for 10 years, they now it takes a lot to slow one down. She is trying to cause harm via an accident, which it isn't when you have narcissistic and deluded older people setting it up! I have had confrontations with lots of people who "think" they know the rules but don't and tryi g to be polite and explain the actual rules(in this case its a local lake with single track and fire roads depending on the side) I was on the fire road and this guy had no interest in learning the difference between one and the other, whatever, I get it, you have to win because its not about what is right but your ego. However, if I saw folks doing what is clearly designed to hurt people, that is way way different. I look at this as this guy wants to hurt me and he doesn't even know me, why? So he can win some twisted war going on in his/her head? I am not going to be polite. I will be loud and threatening and these folks won't do squat because they are too cowardice to confront bikers in person, clearly. After hoping some idiot opens the door for me to protect myself by pushing me then its on and frankly, knowing what they were doing, I would hope I could restrain myself. This last bit isn't what I am endorcing, I am just saying that may be my reaction and I know others with short fuses. These NIMBY terrorists need a direct reminder that their actions have consequences. Toying with peoples lives over your obsession is weak. Act your age or face the consequences. I wonder how many hours of volunteer work and trail maintenance is volunteered by the other user groups compared to cyclists?