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Do you actually ride Fromme? Claiming it is not densely used is pure BS. I
have been up there almost every weekend for decades and especially with the
weather lately I have not seen it busier (with current trails being the way
they are). I meet all sorts of users: riders, hikers, trail runners. Where you
get the idea it is of low user density is baffling.
And quit trying to dampen a situation. It is already out of your hands. When
it is a story in the provincial paper it is big news. As I recall from a long
ago X-Files episode "someone is always paying attention".
Inasmuch as my "second half comment" you have to be completely blind to not
know that reactions between altercating parties is VERY much determined by
someone's gender. I cannot believe you actually need clarification on this.
You are telling me that anyone being confronted by an assailant is not going
to react differently if it is a man or woman. You are telling me the perceived
threat (whether real or not) is not going to be seen more serious if the
person is a male compared to a female? Really? Lets see… Instead of a 69 year
old lady with bad knees you have a 50 year old male, 200lb, fit, muscled, with
hiking poles who does the exact same thing: jab you with a hiking pole and
knocks you phone out of your hand. You are telling me there is no difference
in the scenario? Right. The male scenario would scare the crap out of most
people, and would be taken far further than "Grannie in the Woods" This is no
hypothetical, but extrapolation from known means. And your cliche failed to
illicit the response you intended. This is not a joke. People getting poked at
with poles is not a joke. Moreover, as a First Aid Attendant and medically
educated, I can assure you the fun stops when the defending party puts up a
hand and gets the pole in the eye. It's all fun and games until someone loses
an eye (cliche enough for you?). I have stated that I know the lady, and she
is always pleasant to me. But in a male/female role of outcomes again: she
does not confront me nor try to harass me. Firstly, because I do nothing to
illicit such a response but secondly, being a fit male, I am more than ample
to defend myself, and this is something all people acknowledge, either
consciously or subconsciously. Do you provoke a bouncer whom is 300lb?
Personally I hope this all goes away, but now that it is in the news there is
going to be some expected follow up. I hope none, but that is not how news
works. And no, it was no slip of the mouse. Cliche, I know.
Feb. 3, 2015, 6:38 p.m. - Peter Leeds
#!markdown Do you actually ride Fromme? Claiming it is not densely used is pure BS. I have been up there almost every weekend for decades and especially with the weather lately I have not seen it busier (with current trails being the way they are). I meet all sorts of users: riders, hikers, trail runners. Where you get the idea it is of low user density is baffling. And quit trying to dampen a situation. It is already out of your hands. When it is a story in the provincial paper it is big news. As I recall from a long ago X-Files episode "someone is always paying attention". Inasmuch as my "second half comment" you have to be completely blind to not know that reactions between altercating parties is VERY much determined by someone's gender. I cannot believe you actually need clarification on this. You are telling me that anyone being confronted by an assailant is not going to react differently if it is a man or woman. You are telling me the perceived threat (whether real or not) is not going to be seen more serious if the person is a male compared to a female? Really? Lets see… Instead of a 69 year old lady with bad knees you have a 50 year old male, 200lb, fit, muscled, with hiking poles who does the exact same thing: jab you with a hiking pole and knocks you phone out of your hand. You are telling me there is no difference in the scenario? Right. The male scenario would scare the crap out of most people, and would be taken far further than "Grannie in the Woods" This is no hypothetical, but extrapolation from known means. And your cliche failed to illicit the response you intended. This is not a joke. People getting poked at with poles is not a joke. Moreover, as a First Aid Attendant and medically educated, I can assure you the fun stops when the defending party puts up a hand and gets the pole in the eye. It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye (cliche enough for you?). I have stated that I know the lady, and she is always pleasant to me. But in a male/female role of outcomes again: she does not confront me nor try to harass me. Firstly, because I do nothing to illicit such a response but secondly, being a fit male, I am more than ample to defend myself, and this is something all people acknowledge, either consciously or subconsciously. Do you provoke a bouncer whom is 300lb? Personally I hope this all goes away, but now that it is in the news there is going to be some expected follow up. I hope none, but that is not how news works. And no, it was no slip of the mouse. Cliche, I know.