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April 8, 2015, 2:51 a.m. -  Doug Hamilton

#!markdown Hi Pete, I didn't say Yeti was a slack company. Please don't put words in peoples mouths. They admitted in their reply that their 'Vendor' didn't make the part properly to their spec's. That's a QC problem with who ever it is that makes the swingarms. You do have to ask yourself how many times dose this happen with all bike companies, seeing that so much is made off shore by who know's who in some factory in Asia. Yes there are some great factories out there that make great bike frames for their off shore customers and there are a bunch that don't have the tech or skills to do the job needed. Bike company warehouses are full of busted frames and swingarms, increasingly carbon fibre, which can't be recycled. It's just dumped in a land fill somewhere. Life time warranty, at what cost? If you are aware of the current European frame fatigue testing standards Pete, then you would know that for a frame to pass, it needs to do 500,000 cycles in a test with out failure. That's a lot of beating up. To double that to make shore your frames don't fail is something to be admired. Commencal do this so you the customer don't have to worry that your bike will fail before it's time. All the V3 and V4 frames are built to these standards. How many other bike companies out there do this? I had 5 frames in a row fail on me in one way or another. All had life time warranties and from one of the biggest producers in the premium bike market. Just a waste of my time and money.

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