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Sept. 28, 2023, 8:04 a.m. -  BadNudes

Thanks for being civil, but I completely understand that for the same bar/stem, spacers reduce reach by exactly the spacer height*cos(HTA) The thing is, in my mind, you don't get more _reach_ out of a high rise bar, unless your definition of reach includes effective stem length. In most cases the hand position of a high rise bar could be exactly replicated by a low-rise bar, some spacers, and a slightly longer stem. I don't think anyone would say you're 'getting your full reach' with the latter set-up, even though the position is the same, so your earlier comment seemed a bit incongruous to me. Anyway, the main thrust of my comment was more just to throw shade on what I consider ugly lumpy hi-rise bars (e.g. check out the Deity Highside 760 80mm rise 31.8, the way the bulge abruptly tapers off mid rise strikes me as unattractive)

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