Why does bar roll have anything to do with head angle? You roll the bar to get sweep and rise comfortable for your hands and arms. My Renthals are rising pretty much straight vertical, maybe even a smidge forward to get a little extra upsweep that my hands like.
Having the rise parallel to the head-tube _would_ reduce reach at the grips by millimeters, but the hand position would be garbage. And since I can and have ridden this bike with 10mm more stem length, I know a few mm more reach is nothing compared to having hands ready to apply strong active pressure, instead of being tingly and cramping with a fraction of a percent longer reach. You don't even need to try the other stem lengths, try different rolls and see how you hands feel, the couple mm of potential reach change is more than worth it.
Sept. 27, 2023, 12:27 p.m. - Justin White
Why does bar roll have anything to do with head angle? You roll the bar to get sweep and rise comfortable for your hands and arms. My Renthals are rising pretty much straight vertical, maybe even a smidge forward to get a little extra upsweep that my hands like. Having the rise parallel to the head-tube _would_ reduce reach at the grips by millimeters, but the hand position would be garbage. And since I can and have ridden this bike with 10mm more stem length, I know a few mm more reach is nothing compared to having hands ready to apply strong active pressure, instead of being tingly and cramping with a fraction of a percent longer reach. You don't even need to try the other stem lengths, try different rolls and see how you hands feel, the couple mm of potential reach change is more than worth it.