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Sept. 5, 2023, 12:17 p.m. -  DancingWithMyself

Edited the post before I saw your comment (sorry about that) because I agreed I had said it poorly and didn't mean to be snarky. Something I don't see getting discussed is how realistic it is to believe bike companies can produce cutting-edge motors with very high levels of quality control.  Not an easy thing to do, even if you go hire some expertise. Introducing a motor and electronics takes the potential for failure and other warranty issues to a whole new level.  And motors are black boxes about which I most certainly do not have a sufficient knowledge base to evaluate design, how likely it is to be robust, etc.  I can't imagine we're going to get one of Andrew's incredibly insightful teardown articles about a motor anytime soon.  And users can't evaluate and repair them. I was nervous about all of this, but looking at TQ's history, the other markets that are their bread and butter, etc. gave me enough confidence to pull the trigger. Not trying to make a dig at people that own Shimano, Spesh, and Rocky motors nor be a fanboy.  I'm sure many of them have had a great experiences.  Just thought it might be helpful to briefly consider my line of thinking when shopping a TQ motor against a bike-brand motor.   To make a way oversimplified analogy, would you rather have a tool from a tool company (e.g., Wera, Knipex, etc.) or Park or Pedro's?

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