I hope you’re right about Shimano not (re)pursuing a direct mount derailleur solution. My thought is that the Sram patent described [here](https://m.pinkbike.com/news/sram-granted-patent-for-drivetrain-with-a-direct-mount-derailleur.html) would prevent Shimano from using the UDH mount for their own derailleurs. Arms races are arms races, and the whole XD/Microspline escapade is still a fresh wound, so I’m not optimistic about cats and dogs getting along here.
I agree with your friend about integrated gearing being a better solution for e-bikes. On the other hand, the stealth route you describe eventually leads to more durable components trickling down to cyclists (not just e-bikers) and keeps more service dollars in bike shops. I personally have no interest in riding either option, but sure, they’ll be less annoying if they aren’t noisy.
June 25, 2023, 2:06 p.m. - Blofeld
I hope you’re right about Shimano not (re)pursuing a direct mount derailleur solution. My thought is that the Sram patent described [here](https://m.pinkbike.com/news/sram-granted-patent-for-drivetrain-with-a-direct-mount-derailleur.html) would prevent Shimano from using the UDH mount for their own derailleurs. Arms races are arms races, and the whole XD/Microspline escapade is still a fresh wound, so I’m not optimistic about cats and dogs getting along here. I agree with your friend about integrated gearing being a better solution for e-bikes. On the other hand, the stealth route you describe eventually leads to more durable components trickling down to cyclists (not just e-bikers) and keeps more service dollars in bike shops. I personally have no interest in riding either option, but sure, they’ll be less annoying if they aren’t noisy.