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May 19, 2015, 7:19 a.m. -  James Wilson

#!markdown @Obsession bikes we sell both Pivot and Ibis. Ibis was the company that got us onto DW links and Pivot took us into 650B ( in a big way ). Bikes and bike companies evolve and The Ibis HD3 and the Pivot Mach 6 are both good examples of this. If you check out the Geo's the two bikes are very similar yet still there are differences. The Pivot is a slacker 66 , the Ibis 66.6. The reach per size - different. BB height and chain stay length are shockingly similar. The one spec that of course you can not read is the feel. I believe this has a lot to do with how the rear shock flows through its stroke and how the chain is impacted by the design of the rear end. These are hard points to quantify. I could blab on about feel to you but unless we are clones you would still have to take it with a grain of salt. You can test both yourself at Obsession as we have developed a test track in our hood which does a good job of defining a bikes handling and feel. We have dirt ready demos in Pivot and Trek. James

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