Zee uses an angled parallelogram, where the p-knuckle pivot (the one with the clutch) moves away from the cranks during a downshift, so it makes sense the clutch would have an effect there. And I mentioned this above.
CUES, Shimano 12sp, and SRAM 11sp & 12sp all use horizontal parallelograms where the p-knuckle pivot, with the clutch in it, _does not move_ in relation to the cranks. IRL, my SLX shifter fully clicks into place, with the same action, before the XT mech's cage moves at all, whether the clutch is on or off.
I'm not saying all mechs/shifters are not effected by the clutch. I'm saying I can feel no difference in new horizontal parallelogram mechs, and I can directly see why: no clutch pivot movement means no cage movement during the shift lever movement, and no cage movement means no clutch impact.
March 2, 2023, 9:55 a.m. - Justin White
Zee uses an angled parallelogram, where the p-knuckle pivot (the one with the clutch) moves away from the cranks during a downshift, so it makes sense the clutch would have an effect there. And I mentioned this above. CUES, Shimano 12sp, and SRAM 11sp & 12sp all use horizontal parallelograms where the p-knuckle pivot, with the clutch in it, _does not move_ in relation to the cranks. IRL, my SLX shifter fully clicks into place, with the same action, before the XT mech's cage moves at all, whether the clutch is on or off. I'm not saying all mechs/shifters are not effected by the clutch. I'm saying I can feel no difference in new horizontal parallelogram mechs, and I can directly see why: no clutch pivot movement means no cage movement during the shift lever movement, and no cage movement means no clutch impact.