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Nov. 3, 2022, 12:27 p.m. -  Kenny

Sooo true on the overall fit equation. I'm finding that when riding "long bikes" (chainstay and/or reach, but especially if both), I find I want all of the bar height. Higher the better. I recently started sizing down a little and my need/desire for super tall bars has greatly diminished. Not slammed, but I'm comfortable on more like 35 rise as opposed to 50 or 70.  I feel less "indestructible" on a shorter bike with lower bars, for sure. But having a shorter distance from the front axle to the grips helps my riding in other ways.  The downside I'd find to super tall bars is when the distance from grips to axle becomes too great, my sense of connection/control of the front wheel starts to degrade.  Generally that is not of much consequence on the shore, at least at the speeds I ride, but I do notice it, especially once I get back on something with shorter stack and hit a couple fast corners.

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