A 160mm full-sus bike doesn't end up getting slacker by 2 degrees, because both ends sag. Even if my bike, with its already "too slack" 76ish effective seat angle at my saddle height, approaches a full degree slacker in a steep steady state climb, I don't care because it's not popping wheelies the whole way up, so the effective seated rear center is in a pretty good place. I'm more often scooting back to maintain traction than forward to stop looping out. The people who want stupid steep seat angles are just climbing relatively smooth, relatively grippy, "roads", not going up actual trails with stuff on them. They just sit around and yell about angles louder than the people who are busy out there riding up and down and across trails.
Oct. 7, 2022, 7:32 a.m. - Justin White
A 160mm full-sus bike doesn't end up getting slacker by 2 degrees, because both ends sag. Even if my bike, with its already "too slack" 76ish effective seat angle at my saddle height, approaches a full degree slacker in a steep steady state climb, I don't care because it's not popping wheelies the whole way up, so the effective seated rear center is in a pretty good place. I'm more often scooting back to maintain traction than forward to stop looping out. The people who want stupid steep seat angles are just climbing relatively smooth, relatively grippy, "roads", not going up actual trails with stuff on them. They just sit around and yell about angles louder than the people who are busy out there riding up and down and across trails.