Oh for sure, I never just look at reach alone, and yes, steep seat angles make sitting reaches more manageable for sure... but again, it's seat tube angle isn't any steeper than most modern 160-ish enduro bikes, so we're comparing apples to apples here, so that's gotta feel more stretched out no matter how you measure it.
But, I'm more concerned about the standing reach where a steep SA has no effect. The Canyon's head tube angle, stack, etc (like it's ST angle) is all relatively similar to other 160-ish enduro bikes, so once standing, it really is about that "pedals to handlebar" length. Not to question your review and feelings on the bike... but when comparing bikes with similar geo but this one has a 30 to 40mm longer reach... I don't know it can't start to feel long? Or too long? Although, everyone that owns a Geometron seems very happy!
And yes, about the duty... I'm not sure about this but once you're a business importing the bikes and selling them, isn't there a whole different tax structure involved. Like I don't think the whole parts vs complete applies to businesses does it? Maybe I'm wrong, but I always assumed YT doesn't do their sort of 3/4 assembaly in Canada... those boxes just come in to their "wharehouse" (if you can call it that) and then get sort of re-shipped to the customers. For sure there's extra expense in doing it that way. But if Canyon added $100 to $300 a bike to cover their "Canadian HQ" costs vs pushing $1000 to the customer, maybe they'd sell more? But, looking at a similarly spec'd YT Capra, it comes to $8950 with taxes and shipping, vs $8800 with duty/shipping for the Strive. A Commencal Meta SX comes in at $8250 with taxes and shipping. Maybe there isn't much in the way of savings??
Sept. 12, 2022, 10:40 a.m. - IslandLife
Oh for sure, I never just look at reach alone, and yes, steep seat angles make sitting reaches more manageable for sure... but again, it's seat tube angle isn't any steeper than most modern 160-ish enduro bikes, so we're comparing apples to apples here, so that's gotta feel more stretched out no matter how you measure it. But, I'm more concerned about the standing reach where a steep SA has no effect. The Canyon's head tube angle, stack, etc (like it's ST angle) is all relatively similar to other 160-ish enduro bikes, so once standing, it really is about that "pedals to handlebar" length. Not to question your review and feelings on the bike... but when comparing bikes with similar geo but this one has a 30 to 40mm longer reach... I don't know it can't start to feel long? Or too long? Although, everyone that owns a Geometron seems very happy! And yes, about the duty... I'm not sure about this but once you're a business importing the bikes and selling them, isn't there a whole different tax structure involved. Like I don't think the whole parts vs complete applies to businesses does it? Maybe I'm wrong, but I always assumed YT doesn't do their sort of 3/4 assembaly in Canada... those boxes just come in to their "wharehouse" (if you can call it that) and then get sort of re-shipped to the customers. For sure there's extra expense in doing it that way. But if Canyon added $100 to $300 a bike to cover their "Canadian HQ" costs vs pushing $1000 to the customer, maybe they'd sell more? But, looking at a similarly spec'd YT Capra, it comes to $8950 with taxes and shipping, vs $8800 with duty/shipping for the Strive. A Commencal Meta SX comes in at $8250 with taxes and shipping. Maybe there isn't much in the way of savings??