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Aug. 25, 2022, 11:24 p.m. -  Andrew Major

I can't speak to the specific case, but I know a lot of smaller brands struggled to stay responsive to rider wants/needs in terms of geometry and also come up with the money to create new molds.  In some cases, this stagnated their whole bike lineups since they didn't want to move forward with fresh geo for their aluminum bikes, despite the relative ease and minuscule comparative costs, because then they'd be more current than flagship models.  The Turner Czar was apparently a great machine for the time (never had the pleasure) but one has to wonder if the customers they gained short-term by going carbon wouldn't have been more than covered by sales of aluminum rigs that were updated regularly.

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