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July 9, 2022, 7:41 p.m. -  Andrew Major

A couple of things. If not all then most riders I know who've tried their Honzos set up long have preferred them that way - climbing traction, weight balance, cornering. If Kona made a longer dropout option then I'm certain they'd all own a set if only to know how a longer setup feels.  If you've tried a bunch of different geometry and settled on 417mm stays that's great. The idea that it's more fun is definitely situation-specific. My hardtail is a blast on local trails and has 450-470mm stays.  As to hardtails being slow, I think optimizing sub-optimal stuff is one of life's simple pleasures. Some folks will say "who cares about whether above or below the bar friction thumb-shifting works better? Just buy an indexed trigger setup!" but I'm going to do me, thanks.

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