_...bike companies, if your seat tube is interrupted such that the combination of minimum seat post insertion depth and the average XS/S riders' inseam means they have to run an 80 mm dropper post on their trail bike then you suck for short riders._
**PREACH IT, BROTHER!!!** A combination of the One-Up dropper and fairly short cranks allow this 165cm "tall" / 75cm inseam dude to rock 180mm of drop. I've discounted a lot of bikes over the years due to dumb bends in the seat tube and it strikes me that most don't need to be there for engineering/packaging reasons. Pedals of varying thicknesses and shoes/insoles can also contribute to/exacerbate this situation. As well as saddle height as you mentioned, and the presence/lack of a chamois. I've spent more time than most pondering this situation, and have had many iterations of spreadsheets with various calculations of max insertion/post drop/crank length/... Some people may never change shoes and notice a difference in fit - others notice within 3 pedal strokes.
I've also had my tyre buzz the saddle on full compression and while it wasn't the _worst_ sensation in the world, I did fix it pdq.
May 2, 2022, 3:41 p.m. - khai
_...bike companies, if your seat tube is interrupted such that the combination of minimum seat post insertion depth and the average XS/S riders' inseam means they have to run an 80 mm dropper post on their trail bike then you suck for short riders._ **PREACH IT, BROTHER!!!** A combination of the One-Up dropper and fairly short cranks allow this 165cm "tall" / 75cm inseam dude to rock 180mm of drop. I've discounted a lot of bikes over the years due to dumb bends in the seat tube and it strikes me that most don't need to be there for engineering/packaging reasons. Pedals of varying thicknesses and shoes/insoles can also contribute to/exacerbate this situation. As well as saddle height as you mentioned, and the presence/lack of a chamois. I've spent more time than most pondering this situation, and have had many iterations of spreadsheets with various calculations of max insertion/post drop/crank length/... Some people may never change shoes and notice a difference in fit - others notice within 3 pedal strokes. I've also had my tyre buzz the saddle on full compression and while it wasn't the _worst_ sensation in the world, I did fix it pdq.