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I don't know if Andrew is going to like this, but i'm 177cm tall and i chose the L Carve in purpose for its slightly bigger size than the bike i had before.
Fast forward to today: i've tried longer, slacker, lower but also older, shorter, higher.
I'm into shorter reach, taller stack, taller bb bikes with a low st and not too slack ht.
I can ride a 26" freeride bike with a shorter reach happily but not a size M 560 reach 29" for example.
What takes away from getting an older bike for me is just the seat tube lenght: unfortunately size M tend to have a slightly shorter than preferred reach but the right st instead size L have what i think is my preferred reach (let's say from 380 to 440 i can ride anything) but too much st and that's exactly what is stopping me from restoring the Carve once more.
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