Glad you read my entire reply and comprehended it, Brian :skep: _**I'll say again 625mm Stack**_. HTF is riding a 70mm stem telling that a bike doesn't fit, only a complete ass would even entertain a thought like that.
Just because you swallow up all the marketing BS to make you buy new shit you don't need, so the manufacturers can make more $$$, doesn't mean everyone is a shheeeep and has to follow the move towards overly long and slack bikes, to try and help feel special about their lack of skills and/or desire to not work as hard and match the open, flow trails so predominant today.
Maybe next time finish it off with IMHO, because that's all it is, a damn stupid opinion by someone who doesn't bother to read and try to comprehend others responses - I have longer bikes, I like them just fine, but I also like the 450 Reach of the V1 L Phantom as well with a 70mm stem, it suits the type of riding I like to do _(tight, technical, twisty and janky AF)_ and guess what, when I measure the RAD, you know that knew, current measurement you're 'sposed to be so needing to follow, all my bikes are within 10mm between all of them, as is the saddle to grips measurement and the rear of saddle plumb to CS, then that measurement to the BB, even my old '08 Monkey.
March 18, 2022, 4:50 p.m. - Lynx .
Glad you read my entire reply and comprehended it, Brian :skep: _**I'll say again 625mm Stack**_. HTF is riding a 70mm stem telling that a bike doesn't fit, only a complete ass would even entertain a thought like that. Just because you swallow up all the marketing BS to make you buy new shit you don't need, so the manufacturers can make more $$$, doesn't mean everyone is a shheeeep and has to follow the move towards overly long and slack bikes, to try and help feel special about their lack of skills and/or desire to not work as hard and match the open, flow trails so predominant today. Maybe next time finish it off with IMHO, because that's all it is, a damn stupid opinion by someone who doesn't bother to read and try to comprehend others responses - I have longer bikes, I like them just fine, but I also like the 450 Reach of the V1 L Phantom as well with a 70mm stem, it suits the type of riding I like to do _(tight, technical, twisty and janky AF)_ and guess what, when I measure the RAD, you know that knew, current measurement you're 'sposed to be so needing to follow, all my bikes are within 10mm between all of them, as is the saddle to grips measurement and the rear of saddle plumb to CS, then that measurement to the BB, even my old '08 Monkey.