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Both pants fit my first generation Dainese trail skins which aren't the most streamlined. They are a bit tight though but it works. I also wear 661 protective shorts pretty much all the time under my pants.
I haven't been able to test them thoroughly but the lefroy pants were $80 on sale and I would say they are a lot better quality than some of the more expensive MTB specific pants. The material seems like it should stand up just as well as most MTB clothing.
I would have bought MTB specific pants but I can't find anything that fits. Everything is way too short for me. I have a pair of ONEAL pants and I'm not impressed with the durability. They're on the short side but better than a lot of others I tried.
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