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Nov. 28, 2021, 1:58 a.m. -  Ceecee

I'm saying that the only way we've arrived at a place where it's weird that a frame with a 15mm longer stay and a 30mm longer front center feels like a size larger is that reach is overvalued. If frames came in 25mm size increments, large Banshee would be a size and a half larger than large Chameleon--and with that much rear-wheel travel, wouldn't you want it to be longer? When bar and stem length, spacers, bar sweep, and  bar rise have been factored in, reach is no more meaningful than effective top tube. Sizing by chainstay length and HTA would be more objective. At 6', I'm supposed to be on a large Bronson.3, but my medium has a bb to grip tip center measure of 890mm, which is 70mm _longer_ than what Lee McCormack suggests. Apparently there's a lot of room for negotiation.

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