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Nov. 19, 2021, 9:14 a.m. -  Andeh

The total pin height remains the same with the grub screws.  I think the difference is the conical part on the machined pins kind of pushes up on the rubber, and is also more slippery than cheaper black iron hex pins (like that on most pedals). I know you like shoes that have more "medium sticky" rubber vs. Stealth.  So I think it might be the stiffer rubber grabbing onto the sharper pins.  And super soft sticky rubber like Stealth or SlipKnot will probably favor coarser pins/grubs.

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