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July 19, 2021, 11:51 a.m. -  AJ Barlas

Hey Andy, thanks for the comment. I did counter what Chris was saying and mentioned why he was given the treatment he was. I couldn't remember the exact details during the conversation but did write articles about it at the time, the [initial report](https://nsmb.com/articles/martin-maes-tests-positive-banned-substance/), and a [deeper](https://nsmb.com/articles/martin-maes-tests-positive-banned-substance/)[](https://nsmb.com/articles/martin-maes-and-dr-clark-lewis-respond-uci-decision/) dive with a doctor. Maybe I didn't provide enough of a counter for you but the podcast was about Chris's thoughts, not mine, and I'm not looking to get into arguments with guests – that's a different sort podcast.  Yes, Martin admitted his mistake and it's a legitimate reason in my opinion, but that's not how everyone sees it, and they're entitled to their own view. Thanks for listening and the feedback. I'll keep it in mind when recording future podcasts.

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