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July 5, 2021, 10:13 a.m. -  Perry Schebel

i like this "real bike weight" sentiment. far too much emphasis placed on weight weenieism (and this coming from someone who used to nerd out on full ti bolt replacement, etc). my current (2021) 140mm "trail" bike is 4 lbs heavier than my previous 2016 150mm enduro-ish bike, yet is all round considerably more effective. i guess people like being able to quantify expensive "upgrades", as questionable as that specific metric is (at least for our typical usage). "real world" weights often differ a good bit between published / review weights (ie, typically devoid of standard accessory bolt-ons, often without pedals, etc). would love to see a list of current ews ready to race builds; eye opening, i'm sure.

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