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May 27, 2021, 6:32 p.m. -  AndrewR

Yeah and some just decide to stop in the middle of a steep rock roll, past the point of commitment, that you cannot stop on.  I like dogs and have two myself (which do not come on group rides) but some dogs are best kept to their human only rides or left at home. And a trail dog being at a ride should never be a surprise at a trail head. But if it is and you feel strongly about it you can always choose to ride by yourself that day.

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