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March 29, 2021, 1:47 a.m. -  fartymarty

AJ - What does you "butt to bar" measure on your G1 at your pedalling seat height?  (centre of seat to centre of bars). As a back ground my L Krampus (~73ish) and XL Murmur (~76) have a similar butt to bar despite the 75mm reach difference. As such I feel like I am in a similar position on both bikes albeit further forward on the Murmur. The Murmur climbs steep much better as you aren't perched on the nose of the saddle however the Krampus is more comfortable on the flats as you have less weight on your hands. I've only been on the M for 2 year so i'm probably still adjusting to the newer geo. Interestingly both bikes have a similar CS length 446K v 445M.

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