I think the 12spd clutches need this new. They are way too tight and way to dry out of the box. I agree, the 10s and 11s were better out of the box. I think it's primarily a grease thing. Both my 12spd XT derailleurs came apart dry, everywhere. My saint 10spd and XT 11spd had some of that nice motul stuff in their out of the box. My theory is the grease robot was the slowest so it got fired. I think the clutch design is solid. I have a 1st production run Saint derailleur (2013) that has been continuously used on bikes (it's on my friends bike now) since then. It runs like new.
March 3, 2021, 12:26 p.m. - Sanesh Iyer
I think the 12spd clutches need this new. They are way too tight and way to dry out of the box. I agree, the 10s and 11s were better out of the box. I think it's primarily a grease thing. Both my 12spd XT derailleurs came apart dry, everywhere. My saint 10spd and XT 11spd had some of that nice motul stuff in their out of the box. My theory is the grease robot was the slowest so it got fired. I think the clutch design is solid. I have a 1st production run Saint derailleur (2013) that has been continuously used on bikes (it's on my friends bike now) since then. It runs like new.