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Dec. 15, 2020, 11:51 p.m. -  fartymarty

The skeptic in me says bike companies didn't want to jump to "Porter / Geometron" geo so they could roll out "longer / slacker" for a few years more sales.  It seems to have worked as we are only starting to get mainstream bike companies with progressive geo. I bought a Starling Murmur nearly 2 years ago now and am happy that I won't be selling it in the next 5 years as the geo is in the right ballpark where adjustments (if needed) can be made with an angleset / offset bushes.

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