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Nov. 10, 2020, 1:25 p.m. -  khai

I've got the 3L EVOC Hip Pack Pro and it holds more or less everything I need for short to mid length rides, though when the bladder is full (1.5L) it tends to bounce a bit.  Not a huge deal, but noticeable...  For epics or if I feel the need to carry more (jacket/extra gloves/etc.) I suck it up and carry an older 24L DaKine Seeker pack.  It's rugged, fairly water resistant (deluge ok, dunking no) and carries 3L down low across the lumbar.  Some people hate having stuff on their back.  I hate running out of water or not having a jacket if I need it.

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