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Total aside, but you may appreciate this, I been working on a MEATengines piece tentatively titled “We’re All Running That Short-Person Fit.”
I remember talking to shorter customers in the shop about longer travel (140-160mm) bikes and how we had to compromise on fit to make them work for them. We’d push the saddle forward on the rails (“less good pedaling position”) and run super-short stems to make the bikes fit and the handlebars would regularly be as high (or a touch higher) than their saddle at full climbing height.
Now that’s basically every bike of every size in the forest as proportional Reach requires proportional total-Stack (bar height v. BB).
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