I realize that the point of view I am putting forward is not going to be popular among a group of men who just want to enjoy their rad gear. Trumpstinyhands suggested Travis lose the bro vibe and maybe include a woman on his website. I thought this was reasonable. Show any "woke" person the site and they will come to the same conclusion. Don't shoot the messenger for giving another perspective on a situation. Thanks Travis for putting forward your earnest intention to include women in the products you make. It goes a long way. My wife would be the first to lay down top dollar for quality gear but I guarantee you that she wouldn't just buy mens gear from a company that doesn't make women's.
Viss, you say your daughters had a great time at NF today. I assume they are young, when they are older and ready to buy some gear to shred in would you want companies to make gear for them or just tell them the men's stuff should be good enough for a girl?
Hopefully Travis will continue on his success and by the time they want to buy some NF gear, it will be made in their size. Now that I know Travis is trying to include women in his business plan, I would be more happy to support him getting there. Unfortunately, his website doesn't disclose any interest in the women's market, which is why all this was brought up on the first place. Even just a women's tab that takes you to a webpage saying how its in development would be an improvement.
None of this was written to conclude Travis or NF are against women. I assume Travis is an alright guy based on everything written. But if people can't see how neglecting women entirely from your website could be seen negatively, I don't know what I can tell you.
March 6, 2020, 7:59 p.m. - Reed Holden
I realize that the point of view I am putting forward is not going to be popular among a group of men who just want to enjoy their rad gear. Trumpstinyhands suggested Travis lose the bro vibe and maybe include a woman on his website. I thought this was reasonable. Show any "woke" person the site and they will come to the same conclusion. Don't shoot the messenger for giving another perspective on a situation. Thanks Travis for putting forward your earnest intention to include women in the products you make. It goes a long way. My wife would be the first to lay down top dollar for quality gear but I guarantee you that she wouldn't just buy mens gear from a company that doesn't make women's. Viss, you say your daughters had a great time at NF today. I assume they are young, when they are older and ready to buy some gear to shred in would you want companies to make gear for them or just tell them the men's stuff should be good enough for a girl? Hopefully Travis will continue on his success and by the time they want to buy some NF gear, it will be made in their size. Now that I know Travis is trying to include women in his business plan, I would be more happy to support him getting there. Unfortunately, his website doesn't disclose any interest in the women's market, which is why all this was brought up on the first place. Even just a women's tab that takes you to a webpage saying how its in development would be an improvement. None of this was written to conclude Travis or NF are against women. I assume Travis is an alright guy based on everything written. But if people can't see how neglecting women entirely from your website could be seen negatively, I don't know what I can tell you.