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Jan. 30, 2020, 7:43 p.m. -  UFO

I get and appreciate your well thought out points as always Andrew. I guess what I was trying to say with Hayes (and Manitou) is we've heard this before.  Til then, I'll happily continue to enjoy my DVO suspension and old Shimano 985 levers paired to Deore 4 pot calipers, of which neither have never left me wanting for more.

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