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Nov. 20, 2019, 9:06 a.m. -  cyclotoine

I'm 192cm and yeah I think the XXL looks a touch small on paper. I'd be more into the Jeffsy for my type of riding and on paper the XXL appears to be a way better fit with 510-515 mm reach (depending on model) and a steeper seat angle. I would say that they missed the mark on headtube angle though and I expect those to be a lot slacker on the next generation. Then again the short wheelbase created by the steeper head angle is likely part of what makes them so lively. I think the CF pro jeffsey with a 1.5 or 2 degree angleset and a 150mm lyric or 36 would be an amazing bike. I'd stick to 140 in the back to keep the seat angle steep and the angleset would increase front center while helping counteract the increase height of the fork. But then I'd more or less be pretty close to what I'm already riding, an XXL sentinel.  Also, as you point out, the actual seat tube angle is way slack on YT and they are reporting effective at the same stack height across sizes (obviously since they don't change). So in reality, the effective seat angle for tall folks is pretty slack.

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