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The SQ-Lab cardboard method and the WTB wrist method came pretty close for me too. After 23 years of WTB Silverado saddles I switched to SQ-Lab 611 Active 13 cm this spring and it is the best saddle I have ever been on. During that 23 years I have tried other saddles but always come back to the Silverado. I had two years on the Ergon SME3, which was excellent but one's arse slid off the back on steep climbs (where as the SQ-Lab really supports you) and the rails always broke. 2000 km on the SQ-Lab now and I'm a convert (also a convert of their 12º sweep bar).
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