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I had the Palos and it was awful. It was OK with no water though as long as I didn’t load it up too much. I use a High Above bum bag now and it’s better. Although I crashed last fall because the bag came off on a drop and went into my fork. The buckle is easy to partially latch and I think my saddle struck the partially latched clasp as I dropped. I only figured that out last week when my saddle clipped the buckle on the same drop. Aha moment. Instead of extra water now I carry an MSR Trailshot filter.
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