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May 27, 2019, 11:43 p.m. -  fartymarty

Butt to Bar, Butt to Bar, Butt to Bar. Know your seat height and measure away.  Your body can adjust to different reaches but can't if the cockpit is too short.  My Krampus has a 440 reach and Murmur has 515 and I can ride both because they feel the same seated. Joe summarises it pretty well in the video on the Starling www [https://www.starlingcycles.com/custom-geometry/](https://www.starlingcycles.com/custom-geometry/)

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