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Jan. 30, 2019, 12:43 p.m. -  Metacomet

Yeah exactly.  I wonder if less tire rub is a byproduct of increased reach and slacker angles found on the newest generations of bikes?  Is that possible?  Logic being that you are more centered between the wheels, and also have a much longer front center.  Meaning you do not need to move as far back on extra steep terrain with so much bike in front of your BB.  Extra reach encourages you to stay more forward and centered, whereas you would have historically found yourself hanging straight off the back to get far enough behind the front axle, that you were directly above if not behind the rear axle as well.  If so, is that adjustment enough to avoid tire rub on the wagon wheels?

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