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Again, can’t speak to the shorts at all but these are proper 3-ply / 2.5-ply (lower legs) 10k/10k water proof material. I added photos of the tapping job to the article; it looks good to me.
I have lots of hours/washes already and they look great (photos of pants/seams are now, not new).
I will certainly report back if I have any issues.
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